Vladimir is bad in this meta

WitchQueen Annie··2 votes·696 views

After playing a couple of games in the Japanese servers (where people are try hard as hell starting from "Bronze"), I have decided that it is too difficult to make Vladimir work anymore in this meta.

Vladimir is always safe in laning and can sometimes even get ahead in laning but the game tends to end at less than 3 full items now (seems like 80-90% of games). With so few items, Vladimir's build (no matter how you adjust), always has very glaring weaknesses. Either you don't have enough CDR or you don't have enough burst.

At 2-3 items, Annie and Viktor for example have far more reliable 100-0 and immediately have powerful AOE CCs to outplay opponents.

Vladimir can only bring an AOE damage amp/nuke but its not a very good ability in 2 vs 2s and 3 vs 3 random JG fights/botside fiestas that decide games.

Also, at 2-3 items you either have a Vlad that fires like a One Shot Mega Cannon (1 round of Ult + Tides of Blood + Q or some variation but with not enough CDR to fire again)... or you have a Vlad that plays with smooth CDR but not enough bang for the buck. You literally miss kills and lose skirmishes early because you don't yet have the raw AP necessary to close those out.

Meanwhile with other mage mids, you have a lot more hard CC and reliable burst to kill at this stage. Viktor W + Ult zones the hell out of opponents etc

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To make matters even worse, late game Vladimir no longer feels like a god.

It used to be that you could Ghost in, hit a few people with E, and then kite and blast the whole team with your insane damage and low CDR.

Unfortunately, the ADC is now an over-shielded piece of **** at this point in the game and you just can't always 100-0 them anymore. Killing an enemy ADC that's ahead or mechanically more skilled than your ADC with decent Support (and by decent I mean anyone smart enough to build a ton of shields/healing)... requires either

  1. Your team is coordinated and shuts them down (i.e. strong frontline) ... or
  2. You somehow "trick"/"outplay" the ADC with hard CC.

Option 1 may work but Vladimir isn't particularly good at this. If you have strong frontline, any other Mid could have won the game.

As for Option 2... you have no hard CC to bring to the table as Vladimir. You can't "trick" the enemy ADC or use some CC trick to split his team apart.

Meanwhile, if you just fight the ADC (even if you don't initiate)... even with your 40 percent CDR and a ton of AP you often lose because of the overpowered shields. Even if you win, you only win slightly and all the CC will be focused on you.

2 Comments

ReySolomon2 votes

I got out of silver to plat 4 spamming Vladimir lol he's still good but if you want to make him work make sure you always get item 3111 like you said all the cc they have will be used on you and always get a item 3151 I even rush it and it's pretty nice and another item I like to get to get that full cdr already item 3165 a lot have lifesteals or in general healing from the supports so this is like a core item unless the ADC is super fed so I get item 3157

So my full build looks like this most of the time item 3152 item 3151 item 3165 item 3135 item 3111 item 3089 and take 6 scaling CDR blues and scaling health yellows.

Blood Magicks1 votes

You're not building enough penetration my man you need to go in like a man and rush that mask+visage combo with the sorc boots come over to /r/Vladimirmains it's like a warm gay sauna in there everyone loves everyone and the best content is made.

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