So basically you are not allowed to climb unless you're a smurf ?

Everyone would have an excuse for this but im gonna take it.. That is what happens to me quite often... When let's say our Vayne goes 11/2 , you are Renekton and go 5/0, leaving Tryndamere 6 levels behind. You just chill, farm, chase soraka though the whole summoners. You take jungle camps, basically chilling with ur friends. Then u notice there are no turrets on top ? Wtf ? Oh it's trynda, ill kill him ezzzzzzzzzzzzzz. And then what happens ? You're 13/2 renekton and you got 3 shotted by tryndamere who is 1/5 now ? How.. Oh, he's got 330 minions and 5 items, you have no turrets.. Holy sh*t. We camp tryndamere, let enemy Twitch farm. Oh god, Tryndamere and Twitch have farmed. What should we do now ? Let's force the fight. Oh we got stomped. They got baron. Let's force another. Oh we lost the game. Gg report top for feed.

That's it. Im not SAYING that Tryndamere OR Twitch are op, i just took them for an example. You can end the game EASILY but your team just refuses to do so.. They chase free killz cuz they're underfed and they throw the game.

In that brand game. You should have built an executioners. Don't bother with the "But I was brand" because I'm in that same position all the time on a same dmg type champion. If no one if going to do it, then you do it. You still have autos to inflict grievous wounds just as zac does. If the dumbass top isn't going to get tank shred and executioners for the juggernaut they fed. FINE! I'll build liandries and executioners and do it for you. It isn't optimal. But sitting on your high horse going "fuck that I'm not doing what he should be doing" probably lost you half of the games in which you didn't buy executioners for the team.

That's my experience in a nut shell. You keep on grinding away until you get a win streak long enough to move you to the next rank.

This, I feel like you are expected to be better than the players around you to rank up, being as skilled as them and plateuing means you gotta improve.

Right now I'm gold 3. I can shit on a plat in lane and win the game no problem but the next one ill play like a monkey and lose to low golds/silvers. This is probably more of a personal problem but it goes with and against what you're saying about being better than your opponents.

Go though my replies in this thread, i cannot explain over and over. tldr: i shouldnt be ultra high gold, platinum, diamond, master, challenger, rank 1, faker's brother. i KNOW i belong somewhere near gold 5ish as i made it to silver 1 promos but then i tilted and played 1-2-3 rankeds per day and losing them due to being pissed off.

In general, I agree with you. Having played this year, I can tell you some people are literally shafted with 60%+ auto-losses. Unless you are say a gold 1 or higher, you cannot solo carry a game in low silver if you have even 1 teammate dead set on throwing. If you are not silver 1 or higher, you cannot carry a bronze 1 game alone if you have one or more teammates determined to throw.

I don't know how many games this year I have pulled off something like a 3/0/0 start in lane while consuming all the attention of the enemy jungler and toplaner for the first 15 min of the game only to reach mid-game and get 1-shot by a fed enemy mid and adc with double digit kills. I've had way too many games where team can't even hold a tower for 2 min without getting aced 4v3 while I try to split 1v2. Why not group to help team then if i can 1v2? Because like I said - I don't have enough resistances at 15-20 min to deal with a 7+ kill enemy mid like annie and a 12+ kill enemy adc. Even if I burst adc to 10% (through exhaust) before getting chain stunned and bursted by 4 enemies my 4 teammates can't burst an ADC from 10%hp. Yeah, there is no carrying when people on your team are that useless. There is no "get good". Gimme teammates with scores like 2/4/3 or 0/5/2 who actually listen to intelligent shotcalls and I can probably win 2/3 of those games or more, but give me people who refuse to do anything logical and who go 0/6/0 or worse in laning phase and it is literally impossible to win. And that is coming from a gold 5 speaking about silver 5 games. Your teammates can most definitely overpower any one player's ability to carry by being selfish feeding trolls.

Woahhh. Didnt expect that one. Gewd job

I did. Ty

Im not saying how anyone from my team sucks, or anyone from the enemy team is too good. Im just saying how forcing < 50% winrate is clearly intentional and unfair for the lower elo players. And matching gold mid laner vs bronze mid laner doesnt make any sense at all. Low gold is basically trash elo, but lets be real ? Why would you match bronze 1 player vs gold iv player on the same lane... And why would you get a silver 5 adc that rage quits because of the first blood ?

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Don't see problem here. I climbed from bronze 3 to gold with 60 win rations. Of course i had some games where teammates trolled but overall if you play good you will get positive win rations and climb one step at a time

Yeah when you belong 7+ divisions above where you are, of course you'll smash 90%+ of your games.

Hell Platinum players alone would probably never drop a game in Silver, barring fluke trolls/AFKs.

Honestly. i THINK i belong a little bit higher. Not high gold+, but somewhere Gold 5-ish. Of course, if i deserved it i would carry these... these.. just gonna call them meatbags. Im also watching my replays when i had a good dmg dealt-scores to notice my mistakes, actually sucessfully noticing them and im very happy with that. But when i look at other players from my-enemy team i just say to myself "am i really like this ? do i deserve more than i am actually?".. So yeah, in fact MMR does it's job and probably keeps me where i belong, but it doesnt have to be this rough..

Its not outdated at all. When i started ranked for the first time i won. Wait for it.

2 games. Not in a row. 4/11 kda 50 minions on average. And i got placed in Silver 5. Was that fair ? How many games did i ruin ? And now it happens to me.

On this acc. Won 6 in a row. 7/4 kda 190 minions. Seems like a mid gold placement. No, its silver 5.

I dont know if bronze should be the start. It would be a big problem to climb out. I did it from B4 to S5 in a week because even if no one listens to the calls their adc or supp will go 1v5 or try to 1v1 a fed yasuo/trynd/annie. Without any kiting skill or attack move i must add.

Aha, so i should play what my bronze adc with 20 games wants me to play instead of playing my favourite champions ? Good to know. From now on i will be playing Malphite and forcing fights and skrimishes @ 8th minute cuz i often see that. Maybe i will climb like that.

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basically, riot wants you to climb by getting better but we can't get better without being exposed to higher ranked players. This is because rito tries to keep you at 50% and that means that if you go above, you get shut down without getting the exposion you would like to have.

Why should you be matched with better teammates/opponents in ranked if you haven't improved or aren't as good as them?