So basically you are not allowed to climb unless you're a smurf ?

Dr Yasuuo·4/1/2017, 5:27:55 PM·33 votes·2,778 views

Last week Day 1 - SIlver 4 Day 2 - Silver 3 Day 3 - Silver 4 Day 4 - Silver 3 etc. If i make it to the 50% winrate: "Hoho, you won too much games, here are your silver 5 and bronze teammates, carry them, prove your 50% winrate."

Then i got stuck in silver 4 0 lp. Managed HARDLY to make it to 100 lp. For what ? To get bunch of a NEW silver 5 and bronze players ? To get a guy who will rageuqit cuz he gave away the first blood ? To get a team full of POLISH people that are insulting me in polish cuz of the Yasuo name ? So what now ? I lose 2 in a row and i get demoted to silver 4 yet again ? I need to be a Platinum-Diamond smurf to win these games ? Oh, cannot wait for your 'git gud' comments.

73 Comments

DemainaNyx4/1/2017, 6:24:18 PM12 votes

I think the biggest problem is unless you deserve to be 5+ divisions higher, it's just a pain to climb. I constantly yo-yo from gold promos to silver 1-3 because of winning streaks followed by losing streaks.

It's like if you are a gold 4 skilled player, you'll have a hard time getting through gold 5 and silver 1 due to this, so you may be hard stuck silver 1 simply because you aren't skilled enough to make up the differences of your teammates.

When your team has Yasuo, Graves, Ahri, Vayne, and Brand (me) vs Darius, Amumu, Vlad, Jhin, and Nami and you constantly mention "Build Executioner's Calling/MR", you'd expect the 3 AD members to have EC, even if they don't upgrade it, since the fed member is the Vlad and it's good against 3 people. Nope. Only the Vayne bought it. Mid was 4/15 and Top was 4/13 whereas the combined bot lane was 20/16 (Vayne: 12/8, Brand: 8/8). What?

Or when your team has a 23/9 Draven who decides to try and end with a Trundle and Zac but then starts complaining when he's bursted by the 23/9 Diana who respawns with homeguards. Then Draven starts ? pinging the Lulu (me) who had just respawned seconds before he dies and was at the top inhib tower trying to stop Tryndamere from backing after he TP'd there, there's little you can do to help that.

Or when you have an Ashe who's literally running solo through the enemy jungle frag hunting or running through the enemy Zed and Jax trying to get the kill on the 100 health Caitlyn, there's only so much you can do to help this team.

Bârd4/2/2017, 1:06:13 AM9 votes

You are only going to climb if your current skill is higher than what is associated with your current rank.

Every player reaches a point where they just can't climb any further. Some players reach that point sooner than others, and that's nothing to be ashamed of.

If you win a lot, your MMR increases faster than your rank, meaning that matches get harder the longer a win streak goes on. Everyone deals with it.

Coopa1234/1/2017, 5:53:34 PM6 votes

Oh, cannot wait for your 'git gud' comments.

You just said that because you know that this is exactly what you need to do. Right now Silver 3 might actually be a little bit too high for you since you have less than 50% winrate.

Until you realize that in order to climb the ladder you just have to play better you'll remain hard stuck in silver.

You can blame Riot, and your team, and the "horrible" ladder system all you want, but this won't make you play better

Wînter Fox4/1/2017, 11:35:40 PM6 votes

You didn't know OP? If you want to get Gold you have to beat Plat players with Bronze allies.

Pink her Ult4/2/2017, 1:31:22 AM5 votes

Sounds like a case of Git Gud

bbQsauçe4/2/2017, 2:07:50 AM5 votes

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BlastRush4/1/2017, 5:29:50 PM4 votes

You know how people got to plat and diamond? They had to climb from silver also

Wild Loon4/1/2017, 5:37:21 PM3 votes

Don't see problem here. I climbed from bronze 3 to gold with 60 win rations. Of course i had some games where teammates trolled but overall if you play good you will get positive win rations and climb one step at a time

Marshbouy4/1/2017, 11:23:21 PM2 votes

Silver sucks ass because for some reason that's the base placement for level 30s when the base placement should be bronze 5 (information might be outdated?)

Troy2426214/1/2017, 5:32:23 PM2 votes

While I'll openly admit the ranked system is asinine in many ways, you'll eventually climb if you belong higher. The system just needlessly slows it down to a grind, especially if you only belong marginally higher than you are.

The Sword Saint4/1/2017, 5:59:53 PM2 votes

Yes. you have to actually be better than your current rank to climb - thats what it means to climb. Effectively you have to be 'smurfing' at least a little bit to expect to go up in ranked because if you are the same skill as your rank then you're not MEANT to climb.

This isn't exp to be grinded or participation points, playing ranked is for the system to find your current skill level and assign you an accurate rating. If you aren't better than your rank then don't expect to climb.

BALDG1VEN BOOMER4/1/2017, 7:14:49 PM2 votes

Smurfs were also once new to this game they didn't become good in one night

P0IS0N IVY4/2/2017, 1:59:40 AM2 votes

I'm in plat and have trouble climbing from silver on a smurf. It's basically rng.

Synnx74/2/2017, 8:07:21 AM2 votes

Downvoted because of the name

Imperial Japan4/2/2017, 9:03:40 AM1 votes

basically, riot wants you to climb by getting better but we can't get better without being exposed to higher ranked players. This is because rito tries to keep you at 50% and that means that if you go above, you get shut down without getting the exposion you would like to have.

Tensec4/1/2017, 8:33:13 PM1 votes

You're not allowed to climb if you don't have team play because people actually get better and your bronzestomping mlg420 splitpushing gameplay doesn't work