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A few words about the current state of the game.

Dr Yasuuo··7 votes·2,048 views

I will not cry how my main champion is useless (he is VERY useless atm but that's not why i made this thread).

If u have nothing more important to do, sit down, read this then comment your opinions.

Okay, so. We know that the past few patches completely f*cked the game. New jungle, Lethality (god, please), huge nerfs, buffs , etc. There are even more problems, for example TANKS. Yes..

Now, tank CAN kill you, but you CANNOT kill the tank. Simple. The problem is not their kits, i mean ye, some champs have too much defence and still can do damage and soak damage (Shen pls). But the problem lays in the items. There are too much tanky ad items that provide too much ad and too much health. Simple as that. For example Iceborn Gaunglet. Pure tank item, yes, does not give any extra ad-ap, but after every used spell, sheen procs and auto attack deals + 100% of their maximum AD. I think sheen really not needed in ANY tank items. I often see that the higher elo players are having problems with poppy and hecarim, the champions who will go 1 offensive item and 5 tank items and they tottaly shiit on everyone. The famous words "BRUISER" and "JUGGERNAUT". Oh, you mean the guys who have ~ 350 AD and 5K health but they are immobile. Yes i'm talking about them. I know they got a hard time chasing someone, especially ADC's like Ashe, but come on. Once they reach someone they gonna LITERALLY kill them with one spell rotation. In every MOBA the word "TANK" means "Frontline champion who peels carries and soaks damage". But in LOL tank means "Frontline champion that deals TREMENDOUS amounts of damage for his class, peels carries and soaks damage". Darius Garen (main problem of the low elo players who are 80% of this community) Hecarim Poppy (what ? i have 300 armor and im gonna kill u with one spell rotation, where's the problem ?) Renekton (IM JUST TRYING TO FARM, LEAVE ME ALONE) Irelia (bruiser who hasnt received a nerf for a long time) Volibear (ohhh you sweet bear, bite me with your full tank build for 1k dmg) Malphite (wut? i pressed r and accidently killed an adc) Vi (...) Illaoi (tentacle hentai, but you're the one who's gonna get f*cked by the tentacles.)

Next one is lethality. God. Because of the lethality items i see THE SAME CHAMPIONS EVERY SINGLE GAME

Graves Talon Zed Quinn Jhin MissFortune Rengar Khazix Riven

Lethality just has to be fixed as soon as possible. Its not fair. At all.

And one more word about your most broken and hated champion Yasuo . You asked for the nerf ? You got it. This champion cannot do a jack sh*t now. When i play him i literally just feed everyone, damn he is so useless now. Not because of his nerfs, but because of the current meta. Thinking rationally and with a full working brain. Why would pick Yasuo instead of Riven Fiora or any top laner ? His E was the biggest source of damage in the early game, but it doesnt do nothing now.. Im not going to cry how he is useless now, because everyone who has played him will notice the BIG difference.

All the cryings you saw on this forum about yasuo being broken, tanks being too weak (it hasnt been recently but.) are from Bronze-Silver and Gold players. So if anyone who is actually Plat+ reads this, fine. Bronze and silver players are balancing your game.

Have a good day and thank you for downvotes, i just said how it is. Deny it.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

35 Comments

Big Lincoln4 votes

"tanks are the problem"

lists a bunch of fighters with 2 actual tanks

you could have at least listed Maokai lmao

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Just gonna say OK.

Forgot about Mao tbh.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

. In every MOBA the word "TANK" means "Frontline champion who peels carries and soaks damage". But in LOL tank means "Frontline champion that deals TREMENDOUS amounts of damage for his class, peels carries and soaks damage".

Actually, the word you are looking for is "fighter" or "juggernaut".

Class Definitions

Champion Subclass List

The only actual tanks you listed were Malphite and Poppy.

Hecarim, Renekton, Irelia and Vi are all fighters.

Garen, Darius, Illaoi, and Volibear are juggernauts.

Dr Yasuuo2 votes

Again, those classes are pure BS. Tank is a tank. I dont care if that champ has no mobility, burst or whatever, if i see more than 3k hp on him/her he/she is a tank for me and shouldnt be able to soak and deal damage. Easy as that.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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Actually, the word you are looking for is "fighter" or "juggernaut".

Class Definitions

Champion Subclass List

The only actual tanks you listed were Malphite and Poppy.

Hecarim, Renekton, Irelia and Vi are all fighters.

Garen, Darius, Illaoi, and Volibear are juggernauts.

Same thing. They're tanky, and they do damage.

BrbImOnFire3 votes

You feed because you bad lmao

Dr Yasuuo2 votes

Oh no. You've found me. xDD

Walrus15433 votes

To all you people saying that they are "juggernauts". The name "juggernaut" came last season (correct me if im wrong). Before then they were classified as tanks and the only difference between them back then and now is the slight rework changes and name. So ultimately they are tanks as far as i see it

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Before "Juggernaut" became the official term (in Season 5, around Patch 5.16), they were classified as fighters.

They were never considered tanks.

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

But how they are not classified as tanks when they soak damage. Tank subclasses are excuses for not balancing the game. That is it.

Thund3r Ang3l3 votes

Your post is Bias as hell.

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Ikr

RlP K0BE2 votes

Lethality might be a tad overtuned at the moment but they should still keep it as a strong stat instead of making it how it was before the buff. Mages have been doing bull shit damage for a long time now and no one has had a problem with it.

But now that Zed is actually doing his job and annihilating squishes it's a disaster?

Also I do agree that Yasuo's nerf was unfair. The meta did not even favor him before the nerf in the first place but Riot still caved in because of the constant qqing on the boards. I feel like that's all the boards are good for anyways. (I mean really, did Darius deserved to be nerfed?)

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Yasuo's nerf train has been unfair. 100% crit. Yes. 90% dmg auto attacks, 75% Q. And basically that is about 300-400 DPS. Because if you want to play yasuo, you cant build him full ad. You gonna get CCd and oneshotted but in reward you gonna oneshot someone if you get to him. Yasuo has to build deffensively. You just CANNOT or COULDNT get bersekers EVER on him. The only problem in the low elo about Yasuo is his mobility, i think. Also, he had, still has and will have a TERRIBLE laning phase, you just have to be a really good Yasuo player to survive the laning phase. But now that's basically impossible due to him being outclassed by EVERYONE. This meta just sh*ts on him. He is not a good champ atm. Im gonna stick with his classmates Tryndamere Fiora (even tho fiora cant be called his classmate anymore, but still.)

Lethality will never be balanced. If they nerf it, it wont do a jack sh*t, if they buff it.. It's gonna be a disaster. About Darius, well i dont know if u've read my whole post but im just gonna say it like this.

If you dont kill Darius, it's not fair to be killed with your teammates by him having 4-5k hp in 10 seconds. Tank SHOULDNT have ANY KIND of true damage no matter how hard he gets it. That's all. Simple.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

The only tank with true damage is Cho'gath.

He's pretty much and awkward mix between a melee-ranged burst mage, an AP juggernaut and a tank.

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Seeing that you play tanky champs or how u like to call them 'juggernauts' and 'fighters' it's okay to defend them. I would defend the release yasuo if someone has been trash talking about him

Leo10242 votes

i don't care about yasuos damage, i don't care if you think he's broken or balanced, he's overloaded as shit and it's sooooo toxic to deal with

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Overloaded ?

Passive: Shield : auto attack, wait a sec, oneshot him double crit: 10% crit penalty on AA and 25% on Q. Since u wont be getting much ad on yasuo we gonna say your dps will be 300-400. 650 with the full ad build. But no one plays full ad yas since u rly get oneshotted. Q - enchanted basic attack which you can miss. W - youre just too braindead to bait it. It has 26 seconds cooldown. E - dash ability that cannot be reactivated on the same enemy for the 10 sec at the first rank and deals less dmg than a gromp now. R - i love the part when some of you stay with 400 hp on the lane when i hit lvl 6 then i EQ flash in you and yell SORYE GE TON. And delete you. Or if i dont, i just auto attack you once more since i get a shitload of armor pen.

KuroCaliber2 votes

You are an idiot. Iceborn gauntlet does 100% base ad. Also, it is actually impossible to have 5k health with a balanced tank build, much less 5k health with 350 ad.

Most of what you claim are tanks are divers. Tanks are high health high utility champs. Juggernauts are the tankiest melee carries, sacrificing mobility for health. Meanwhile yasuo gets both.... Now poppy used to be unbalanced, but after a row of nerfs, she's much more tolerable.

Currently the strongest tank is maokai. He doesn't exactly bring damage to the table. He has a load of cc tho. Stop blaming tanks for what divers do. It would be the same as blaming yasuo for what riven does.

Next, lethality is fine on assassins, it's adc abuse that made it a problem. Finally

Also tank still means tank, TANKY is different, divers can be tanky, mages can be tanky, juggernauts can be tanky, but the Frontline tank is its own class. RIOT wants to differentiate them, and they're doing fine.

Divers get to much, ad, HP, utility. So busted, but leave tanks alone, especially since your mains ULT says fuck you to tanks anyway.

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

You gonna call me an idiot because RIOT has brainwashed you by naming tanks JUGGERNAUTS, DIVERS, FIGHTERS, BRUISER.. This wouldnt be allowed in ANY other game. Of course someone can go with 3000 HP , but they're still made of paper cuz of the poor armor and MR. But your JUGGERNAUTS and FIGHTERS have ARMOR/MR steroids.

Garen ult. Darius has no steroids, but he is preferred to be played like a TANK. He will go black cleaver and rest the tank items and you call him fighter or juggernaut ? + he gets TOO MUCH armor pen from e's passive. Poppy gets armor and mr from the passive, the bonus is DOUBLED when she is on the low hp. Wukong, the FIGHTER gets armor and mr for each nerby enemy champ (although hes fine, he is a balanced champion, sacriface dmg, go full tank but do less dmg than a red buff. Sacriface tankiness, go full dmg, be an assassin but get deleted in 1 sec). Shall i continue with your CLASSES AND SUBCLASSES.

Also, my main can ultimate only when someone is knocked up, meanwhile anyone with a half wolking brain can delete Yasuo before he even stacks 2 Q's.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

wait, when did they nerf yasuo?

RlP K0BE1 votes

Patch 7.2 or something like that. Basically made his E weaker in general.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Patch 7.2 or something like that. Basically made his E weaker in general.

damn, and i was still banning him:))..i hate that champ

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Not sure if you're trying to be funny or really didnt know that Yasuo has been nerfed. But he is nerfed in the patch 7.2, as the guy above me said

Micbran1 votes

Garen and Darius aren't tanks????? They're juggernauts. And yes. They are cancer, because they are "supreme melee" (which is retarded) but THEY ARE NOT TANKS.

Dr Yasuuo2 votes

Another tank player.

Walrus15433 votes

They get 1 dmg item and rest tank items, how are they not tanks?

Incarceration3 votes

I guess it's because they don't have reliable engage.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

They lack utility for their team.

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Exactly. Nice name tho xddddd

Ahristocats1 votes

you're low elo?

then yasuo is viable

Dr Yasuuo1 votes

Actually no. Low elo players force what they see on the streams. Lethality abusers. They gonna pick Talon or Zed and Yasuo wont do a jack shit to them.

DAMN I LOVE SAYING JACK SHIT

Edit: got your point. Im stewpid. Sry xd

SkeltzAlukard1 votes

lmao ignore this pls. i made this thread when i was a hardstuck silver 3 kid

The Spicy Crit2 votes

{quoted}

lmao ignore this pls. i made this thread when i was a hardstuck silver 3 kid

And this too. I was an egoistic fuck back then. Wow. How time flies

SkeltzAlukard1 votes

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And this too. I was an egoistic fuck back then. Wow. How time flies

What the fuck, why do i still keep doing this shit.

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