Jax needs an Absolute counter for late game 1v1 other than Fiora

Armored Yokai··3 votes·5,630 views

Jax seriously has no counter-play 1v1 late-game he will demolish tanks and burst down mages if he can just simply auto them there should be a champ that will ignore Autos + auto buffs buts be extremely weak vs abilities

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ProfDrDeath8 votes

He has.

It is called not 1v1'ing him lategame.

Armored Yokai2 votes

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He has.

It is called not 1v1'ing him lategame.

it shouldn't require 2+ to beat him

TakeAGuessNerd4 votes

it's a team game for a reason

Armored Yokai2 votes

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He has.

It is called not 1v1'ing him lategame.

what if it's late game and he catches your team out in teamfights and your mage is focusing adc leaving you to keep jax off but jax will just kill you

Weiner the Pooh2 votes

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He has.

It is called not 1v1'ing him lategame.

It's funny because when people used his defense for Fiora they were downvoted to hell and called morons. Funny how when it's a champ the boards like it's suddenly ok.

DaveRod4 votes

Have you heard of this cool new champion called Malphite

Armored Yokai2 votes

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Have you heard of this cool new champion called Malphite

Like i said He DEMOLISHES tanks

DaveRod3 votes

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Like i said He DEMOLISHES tanks

Not unless you build Randuins Omen, Thornmail and Frozen Heart and max E. It'll slow down his burst, destroy any sustain he might have, and give your team mates a fighting chance against him.

DaveRod1 votes

Also build Frozen Mallet for the slows. I love doing that as a Malphite. I don't like Ice Born gauntlet as they trigger after every ability. I much prefer if I could AA and slow down enemy champions after a good ulti.

DaveRod3 votes

And another thing, Jax mains find it difficult to deal with Malphite. Just look at this reddit thread at Summoner's School.

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerschool/comments/2vi5mw/how_am_i_supposed_to_lane_against_malphite_as_jax/

Armored Yokai2 votes

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And another thing, Jax mains find it difficult to deal with Malphite. Just look at this reddit thread at Summoner's School.

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerschool/comments/2vi5mw/how_am_i_supposed_to_lane_against_malphite_as_jax/

I tried Malphite vs Jax with standard runes and masteries vs jax and jax did so much damage still

DaveRod3 votes

It depends on how you played the match. Were you hyper-aggressive? Did you start fighting him or did he start fighting you? Did you call for ganks? Was it your first time playing Malphite?

You need to think real hard playing against Jax. Even for a brain-dead champion like Malphite.

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

if your late game strategy consists of 5 1v1s you're probably doing something wrong

Xcceptance2 votes

Currently Nasus fairs really well against him late game due to his ability to build very tanky while doing damage and reducing his attack speed. Also noting, champions such as trundle olaf and aatrox if used well can also challenge him, although might stuggle a lot.

Khristophoros2 votes

Jax is the champ. Working as intended.

DaveRod2 votes

I implore you to try Malphite out.

Baron Barian2 votes

The thing about late game is that you should never go 1v1 at all unless you're planning to mage-nuke them in 1.8 seconds.

WoonStruck2 votes

Most tanks destroy him though unless he went gunblade...

He doesn't get any pen.

Jar Jar binks l1 votes

Nasus , tryndamere

Fullmetallic1 votes

Trundle ,Nasus Darius ,item 3140

Colgate Gator1 votes

You don't seem to understand what's the point of lategame hypercarries.

nachocheeseeeee1 votes

Jax requires attack speed to do damage. Anyone who can ruin his attack speed is gonna give Jax a hard time. You say late game 1v1, so I suppose a late game Nasus would simply annihilate him. Let's see why.

Nasus has a point and click movement and attack speed slow. Jax can build item 3009, item 3111, item 3139 or summoner 1 this, but that means he must kill a Nasus in a matter of less than 6.6 sec, as Nasus's Wither would be up then (assuming 40% cdr). This is potentially doable for Jax, but he can only dodge 2 Siphoning Strike at best under his 2 second duration Counter Strike, that is if the Nasus is dumb enough to attack him then. Once Jax's Counter Strike is done, it won't come back to him after another 4.8 seconds (assuming 40% cdr), when Nasus's Wither would be up. By then Jax has the choice of Leap Striking out of the fight, because there is no way he can deal with Nasus's infinite scaling, especially when Nasus is under his ult, which reduces his Siphoning Strike from 2.4 seconds to 1.2 seconds. On top of that, Jax has to deal with a tank Nasus, who will build both armor and magic resist to deal with Jax's hybrid damage. Jax has no innate armor or magic penetration. This means that Jax has to get some form of armor or magic resist shredding item, like item 3033 (prob his best choice), item 3036, item 3071, item 3091 or item 3135, which means Jax would be building more squishy (Wits End offers mr which will not help tank against Nasus's Q, and really Black Cleaver is the only one that can give Jax some defense, especially with his ultimate's scaling). Even if Jax goes semi-tanky (pure tank Jax will definitely not win against pure tank Nasus) and/or uses his ult, he will still take a good hit from Nasus if he doesn't dodge his Q, because Nasus's Spirit Fire allows him to reduce 35% of his enemy's armor. Jax could buy a Zhonya's or Guardian's Angel to buy some time for his Counter Strike to be up again, but they will not add much offensively against tank Nasus. In the long term, we know that Nasus's dps will outscale Jax. Jax has some disgusting stats (88% attack speed boost, even worse if you mix that with Lethal Tempo), but a capped stat simply will not outscale an infinite scaling ability.

Also, here are some good champs who can deal in a 1v1 with late game Jax pretty well. Fiora Gangplank Vayne, and to an extent Tryndamere MasterYi Yasuo Kayn (Rhaast).

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