Wait. So you add 1 marksman jungler only to remove all potential other ones?

Soda Popkillski·9/16/2015, 1:58:09 PM·7 votes·1,944 views

Vayne, Kalista, Twitch, and a few others had the jungle POTENTIAL by going sated devourer. Now that you have changed Sated (only the sated part, not the stats) to be useless on ranged champions, this will no longer be possible (unless you want to be a huge useless shitfest). These champions weren't even properly viable in the jungle - and not close to strong. Nerfing them is the stupidest shit i've ever seen.

I love it when Riot removes certain ways of playing the game, loveable.

33 Comments

Fiveofswords9/16/2015, 2:04:34 PM4 votes

so...twitch was a bad jungler before, now hes more bad...and this is a big impact on the game for you? whatever dude...the game offers plenty for diversity. For example, you could play one of the many champs that are good at jungling. And if you cant stand doing that you still CAN do silly troll stuff like ad soraka or whatever...and it jsut wont be as good and you probably cant get challenger rank with it. but you can do it.

Xemeron9/16/2015, 3:13:03 PM3 votes

Sated Devourer is cancer and should be CUT OUT of the game. The nerf for range was good, now it needs a nerf for melee!

NemeBro9/16/2015, 2:21:30 PM2 votes

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Vayne, Kalista, Twitch, and a few others had the jungle POTENTIAL by going sated devourer. Now that you have changed Sated (only the sated part, not the stats) to be useless on ranged champions, this will no longer be possible (unless you want to be a huge useless shitfest). These champions weren't even properly viable in the jungle - and not close to strong. Nerfing them is the stupidest shit i've ever seen.

I love it when Riot removes certain ways of playing the game, loveable.

Vayne jungle was gutted because, with Sated, she was exceedingly binary. She either finished Devourer with no problems and became unstoppable (the more rare occurrence in high level play), or she was completely useless for most of the game.

Also, the sated nerf was as much (if not more so, considering she's far more viable) for Kayle as it was for Vayne.

USG Failsawce9/16/2015, 2:23:14 PM1 votes

How did this patch make it impossible for ADC Junglers to be played? All they did was nerf the on-hit dmg for Devourer...

And how was the nerf to Devourer aimed at ADC Junglers, and not the stupidly OP pool of champs that use entirely too effectively?

Am I missing something?

Sinister Mars9/16/2015, 2:36:11 PM1 votes

Champion diversity. Pushing people into the picks and builds Riot wants. I'm just sad they won't play for us too. Sure would be nice to win some games.

The Yetii Rider9/16/2015, 2:44:24 PM1 votes

Kindred has an on-3-attacks %max HP effect and unlike Vayne or Twitch Kindred is actually meant to jungle. It's like if Gnar jungle was really a thing, they'd probably go ahead and nerf Devourer for that interaction specifically.

Kindred is likely meant to build Warrior anyways.

WarlockLaw9/16/2015, 2:48:43 PM1 votes

I hope they realize the nerf is stupid and just nerf jg kayle instead

AntiFlash9/16/2015, 3:12:20 PM1 votes

Try Quinn with Warrior, or tf even though the sated is gonna hit him too.

Support Evelynn9/16/2015, 5:14:13 PM1 votes

Twitch's niche is an early game pressure jungler, this change does not impact that whatsoever especially considering he's one of the slowest to sated.

MLDzXnRRR9/16/2015, 2:14:00 PM1 votes

Vayne jungle is the most detested thing in the game - your team screams for ganks, but you farm, enemies hate you when you finish sated + bork.

Ternt9/16/2015, 2:14:18 PM1 votes

Yeh, honestly the jungle is pretty solid right now with a variety of options. Before you could only play certain champs, but with every jungle item being useful now, you can pick so many different champs and different builds. Like Rek'Sai can go either Cinderhulk or Warrior depending on the game, Vi can go Cinderhulk, Warrior or Devourer with moderate success in all categories, Elise can go Cinderhulk or Runeglaive, Evelynn can go Warrior or Runeglaive, the list goes on. There's thousands of viable options and combos, there's no reason to complain that specific champs can't do something. The reason they nerf stuff is because although it might take away from a specific amount of non-meta champs, it makes the meta champs weaker. When you see Udyr, Shyvana, Yi, Nocturne, etc going Sated on a regular basis with moderate success, these are the problem champions they base it around. They don't sit there and think "This nerf is going to kill Kalista jungle." because it's not meta, it's not viable and it's not a problem.