Stop building Abyssal Scepter & ROA. Just stop.

Thresh Outta Fux··3 votes·1,255 views

Stop using the same build no matter who you play against. IT DOESNT WORK! AP casters, fuckin drop item 3027. It's not useful unless you build A LOT OF MANA and use it in conjecture with item 3070. Annie is probably the only caster champion that you should be building it on, aside from Ryze of course.

Also, drop item 3001. The item's useless. You know why?

Build a item 3116 and a item 3151. Wow, you just traded away 50 MR, and 70 AP, for %HP damage that deals 2% of the targets current HP. BUT WAIT. You also now have 80 additional ability power, 15 magic penetration, 300 HP, and with item 3116 you are now dealing 4% of the targets current HP, slowing them, and gained another 400 hp. You just gained 700 hp vs 500 hp, 180 AP vs 190 AP, 15 MPEN vs 0 MPEN, 4% HP damage PER SECOND, and your spells SLOW ENEMIES.

Damn, you really needed that MR? Buy some fuckin' Merc Treads, or better yet, DODGE SKILLSHOTS. Wow! So amazing! At least now, provided you can play better than a baked potato strapped to a keyboard using rubber bands, you can turn Volibear/DrMundo into a pile of DUST.

So I know what you're all thinking. "But muh Manas! No manas to cast spells oh nooes!" Shaddup. item 3174 Just shaddup. item 3165 No really, shaddup. item 3040. Don't like mana regens? Shaddup. item 3110

Even better, for those of you who haven't already ran down to the comments below to spew fecal matter from your face into this thread, I'll give you a little tip about item 3110. The Attack Speed slow passive? Counts as CC. Build this and a item 3151 on Amumu/Leona/Alistar with a item 3068, and just watch the enemy team get steamrolled by your 4% of current health AOE burn damage.


The only time item 3001 MIGHT be useful is if you already have the items I've listed, and a item 3135, and you're STILL not getting through the enemy MR while facing an ALL-AP team. You're not. You're probably facing a Zed, a Yasuo, a Talon, or some other AD-Assassin-mid laner/top, or someone with low enough burst AP damage that 50 MR won't do jack shit compared to some HP and DPS of your own. Abyssal Scepter isn't going to do jack shit. First off, you have to HIT the enemies with your spells to even make use of the 20 MR reduction on enemies, right? Well shit shucks golly gee wiz, you know what? In order to proc the 4% HP burn, 35% MR ignorance, 15 MPEN, and the slows, you have to, -GASP- HIT the enemies with your spells!

Wow. Abyssal Scepter is sooo useful. You know what you build Abyssal for? As a support, trying to help your APC deal more damage. Last time I checked, Janna/Teemo bot is not a viable lane setup in the current meta. So stop building it.

If you really need 50 MR, put it on your rune page. MR itemization SUCKS for casters. We have item 3174 and item 3001. That's it. And to be frank, they both suck. For AR, we have item 3157 item 3110, which, are not much better, but still more useful than the MR items.

So use your rune page. Don't copy pros, figure out where your strengths and weaknesses lie, and setup your page accordingly. As an AP caster, you need to stay back, and don't be running in willy nilly so that your Abyssal Scepter applies to the targets, throw your spells and back away, don't get hit, don't use item 3001.

11 Comments

Dominick Destine10 votes

No.

Lord Boltrix2 votes

I'll add onto that profound statement.

Ahem.

(inhales)

Hell no.

Abyssal Scepter and Rod of Ages are items that can work.

You know what they are good for dealing with, I'll give you one word: assassins.

Rod of Ages is a good way of being able to deal with assassins because it grants not just AP but health and mana as well, and Abyssal Scepter is not just a mid-way trade between outright taking an MR tank item or more damage, but it helps immensely against AP assassins who all need to get close to you, and that MR can keep you alive long enough to flash away, perhaps even trade back and possibly kill your lane opponent if they made a mistake (likely diving you under tower) between the aura (that the assassin has likely entered the range of by now) and the bit of AP that Abyssal grants.

L Psy Kongroo2 votes

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You know what they are good for dealing with, I'll give you one word: assassins.

Plot twist: OP is an assassin main.

DrNova2 votes

Lol. Its funny when noobs pretend to know what they are talking about.

For anyone wondering, don't listen to a word of op.

Jerrekt1 votes

nope

ViashinoWizard1 votes

Chogath Swain u wot m8

Sasogwa1 votes

What? ROA and Abyssal are the most costefficient AP items by far right now

54340481_DEL1 votes

Oh god what a steaming pile.....

Slythion1 votes

Just...wrong

Twiggles1 votes

So you're saying I shouldn't buy one item because TWO ITEMS PUT TOGETHER give better stats...

Nah. Seems legit.

Eric Senpai1 votes

So cringe.

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