With Armor Getting Nerfed

Crab Wrangler·Aug 4, 2015·3 votes·2,906 views

Can we nerf jungle monster damage then, so champions will be able to clear without dying cough cough

22 Comments

RiotMeddlerAug 4, 20157 votes

Early game Armor items aren't getting nerfed (Glacial Shroud's actually getting buffed slightly). Frozen Heart, Thornmail and Randuin's Omen are the items getting nerfed a bit (with Thornmail at least having some niche cases where it'll be stronger).

ABlueQuakerAug 4, 201511 votes

But why nerf Armor with the Tank meta on its way out the door anyway?

LankPantsAug 4, 20155 votes

The same reason they crippled Sejuani when she was already falling out of the meta.

"You're only allowed to play champs who make #LCSbigplays, now get back to playing Lee Sin and Rek'sai every game."

-Edit: Fucking hell I thought I was joking then they go and buff Lee on the PBE. What the fuck are they smoking?

KüramaAug 4, 20153 votes

Off-topic but are you also the Lead Content Designer now? In addition to being the Lead Champ Designer? You've been commenting on lots of gameplay / content concerns and generally know what's going on without having to ping another team.

RiotMeddlerAug 4, 20152 votes

Yeah, I've taken on a lot of the responsibilities Morello used to have, which is one of the reasons I've been getting more involved in a wider range of discussions.

For anyone unaware and interested Morello's shifted onto an R&D team working on a non LoL project. Few more details from him in the Q&A he did last week:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/ac8IwuH1-between-two-turrets-chat-with-morello-complete

SolideusAug 4, 20151 votes

Morello said in the Q&A Dominion will probably never be updated (I assume VU nor gameplay). Is that really true?

KüramaAug 4, 20151 votes

I see. But is it overwhelming though? Shouldn't you have a deputy lead or somebody to assist?

And as Solideus mentioned, I'm really sad to see Morello stating that us Dominion players are getting nothing...Is it possible to give us something?

Jesus is SaviorAug 4, 20151 votes

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Early game Armor items aren't getting nerfed (Glacial Shroud's actually getting buffed slightly). Frozen Heart, Thornmail and Randuin's Omen are the items getting nerfed a bit (with Thornmail at least having some niche cases where it'll be stronger).

Niche case: no one on the enemy team builds a black cleaver to completely obliterate your thornmail damage

ErockandrollAug 4, 20152 votes

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Niche case: no one on the enemy team builds a black cleaver to completely obliterate your thornmail damage

Crap, didn't think about that case. The proposed thornmail nerf was to reduce it's damage base on enemy damage, but add damage based off your bonus Armor.

And said armor gets ignored by Last Whisper and Black cleaver. So it sounds more like it's getting gutted.

I'm a bit disturbed about the Frozen Heart nerfs. Since it's so Core on all of my top lane tanks. (Which is actually just Sion) Giving enough Mana and CDR for your spells while providing a good Armor base. It's practically Athene's for tanks. But I might over look that if Glacial shroud is getting buffed.

But if I recall correctly, the Armor nerfs were part of the fighter rework. (cause they counter fighters so Easily) Yet I also believe that the Fighter rework would come with more hybrid items. (offensive and defensive) So even if Armor gets nerfed in General, I would like to see more options.

Photos of GhostsAug 4, 20151 votes

Last Whisper won't affect anything in any way. It ignores a part of your armor upon dealing damage to you, it doesn't debuff you preventing you from dealing damage with your armor. Black Cleaver does.

WarWorkAug 4, 20151 votes

Why are you nerfing armor again?

Yosuke ApperuAug 4, 20152 votes

So that Vayne can become even popular xD

redniwediSAug 4, 20151 votes

New armor items are being added, and some MR items are getting buffs as compensation.

HumanPerfectAug 4, 20155 votes

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Why are you nerfing armor again?

Don't try to make sense of Riot's actions nowadays...

"Teemo has a unique niche of map control, no other champion focuses on planting mines around the map... Why are we cutting his minefield in half, adding a decay to the slow, increasing the time it takes to arm the mines, and turning him into another generic "omg sick skill shot #LCSBigPlays" champion?" "lol because we can"

"Why are we giving Fiora a visual downgrade that no one asked for?" "lol because we can"

"Why are we changing the hud when no one.... you know what, nevermind" "lol"

I'm guessing at this point, they're just trying to keep things fresh so I'll begrudgingly accept these changes with the realization that sooner or later they're going to be screaming "Armor buff/rework coming soon! Just what the meta needed!". It's all a cycle, man.

Dextix LTAug 4, 20152 votes

Time to get back to the LCS MUHCASH, 1 second teamfight, assasin, 306 no scope, meta.

Sneak DogAug 4, 20153 votes

May I ask why? I thought with the black cleaver going around and the way ad carries scale (ad/as/crit/arpen vs. health/armor and tanks also need mr), lategame armor wasn't really an issue. To me it often seems the opposite even. Is this to make midgame tanks a bit squishier?

Puri Puri TaricAug 4, 20151 votes

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Early game Armor items aren't getting nerfed (Glacial Shroud's actually getting buffed slightly). Frozen Heart, Thornmail and Randuin's Omen are the items getting nerfed a bit (with Thornmail at least having some niche cases where it'll be stronger).

so in a nutshell its a complete taric nerf moving him to trash tier. gg.

darkdillAug 4, 20151 votes

I find your lack of context disturbing.

Dr PoroAug 4, 20151 votes

Hey Meddler, cool emblems! I wonder why people from other regions don't get emblems on these boards? (Don't get me wrong, I love that we're already allowed to post on these, just honestly curious.)