I still want an armor counterpart to Wit's End

Rebonack·Nov 29, 2017·3 votes·338 views

As in, an OnHit magic damage item that provides armor like Madred's Bloodrazor of old used to. I really miss Ionic Spark, too. Still can't believe Riot deleted it because Marksmen weren't buying it.

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TèrminusNov 30, 20172 votes

Wouldn't ranged top laners buy this and make bruisers even more miserable than they already are?

RebonackNov 30, 20171 votes

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Wouldn't ranged top laners buy this and make bruisers even more miserable than they already are?

How often does Gnar pick up Wit's End against magic damage champs?

TèrminusNov 30, 20172 votes

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How often does Gnar pick up Wit's End against magic damage champs?

Gnar's only a ranged champion half the time, though, and he doesn't really build for his ranged form besides Frozen Mallet.

I mean more like Vayne or Teemo.

RebonackNov 30, 20171 votes

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Gnar's only a ranged champion half the time, though, and he doesn't really build for his ranged form besides Frozen Mallet.

I mean more like Vayne or Teemo.

Or Kayle.

A quick look suggests they do better with glass cannon builds, comparatively speaking. I strongly doubt that would change too much.

I'm still an advocate of addressing the ranged/melee divide with the way minion aggro works. Make them really go for blood when a ranged champion harasses. It's a systemic issue and it should be addressed with systemic tweaks.

DuskDaUmbreonNov 29, 20171 votes

item 3071 is extremely similar to Wit's End. A bit more juggernaut-oriented, sure, but has a similar comparison.

RebonackNov 30, 20171 votes

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is extremely similar to Wit's End. A bit more juggernaut-oriented, sure, but has a similar comparison.

It is.

Sort of.

I'm mostly talking about OnHit magic damage, though. At the moment the only items that really fit into that category are Wit's, Rageblade, and Nashor's. Rageblade and Nashor's are more glass cannon items. Items to make an AP Marksmen workable. I'm talking about items that champs who like to be tanky while auto-attacking quite a bit would be happy to build. Like, say, Voli or Irelia or Tahm.

Professor WardNov 30, 20171 votes

For talks of this item to even begin to start to be thought about even being close to being able to be born, you must first figure out how adcs arent going to abuse it.

RebonackNov 30, 20171 votes

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For talks of this item to even begin to start to be thought about even being close to being able to be born, you must first figure out how adcs arent going to abuse it.

Ezreal's Q no longer applies OnHit effects.

Done.

For a less tongue in cheek answer, Marksmen aren't going to find an item that gives zero AD and zero Crit% very attractive. They're losing out on too much AD ability scaling or basic attack power.

Professor WardNov 30, 20171 votes

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Ezreal's Q no longer applies OnHit effects.

Done.

For a less tongue in cheek answer, Marksmen aren't going to find an item that gives zero AD and zero Crit% very attractive. They're losing out on too much AD ability scaling or basic attack power.

So youre asking for an attack speed armor item,(bahahahahah) with on hit armor shred?

RebonackNov 30, 20171 votes

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So youre asking for an attack speed armor item,(bahahahahah) with on hit armor shred?

No.

We've already got Cleaver for armor shred.

I'm asking for an OnHit magic damage item that builds out of Recurve and some armor item. Exactly which armor item that is and what the item's unique passive would be remains unstated.

Professor WardNov 30, 20171 votes

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No.

We've already got Cleaver for armor shred.

I'm asking for an OnHit magic damage item that builds out of Recurve and some armor item. Exactly which armor item that is and what the item's unique passive would be remains unstated.

Magic damage and armor is probably never going to go farther than item 3157