Zac & Teleport interaction

dakota saturn·Jan 9, 2017·2 votes·896 views

I don't think they should let an ally teleport to Zac's passive, making him invulnerable. He technically should count as a champion. The teleport gives him an unprescendented amount of invulnerability - far more than any other source, including zhonya's, kayle ult, and zil ult (while reviving).

It makes an already strong champion that much more oppressive, and doesn't even stop the timer on his passive so it all but guarantees that he'll revive without any counterplay at all.

8 Comments

Kirius DarkJan 9, 20171 votes

Nope. It burns a summoner just to save him and being a minion blob he can be smited for full truedamage. ez

General Esdeath Jan 9, 20171 votes

The passive and tp have the same cooldown.

dakota saturnJan 9, 20171 votes

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Nope. It burns a summoner just to save him and being a minion blob he can be smited for full truedamage. ez

Yeah. Smite on Zac's passive shouldn't be a thing either.

KidOmega37Jan 9, 20171 votes

It's because they are coded as minions hence the tp and smite interactions. Still I agree with Feeder about how you have to burn a summoner to do it. That means as a laner you are choosing to give yourself a big disadvantage to save someone and have to weigh if it's worth it or not. Same as deciding whther or not to burn heal as an AD to save your supp or something.

dakota saturnJan 9, 20171 votes

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It's because they are coded as minions hence the tp and smite interactions. Still I agree with Feeder about how you have to burn a summoner to do it. That means as a laner you are choosing to give yourself a big disadvantage to save someone and have to weigh if it's worth it or not. Same as deciding whther or not to burn heal as an AD to save your supp or something.

Disagree - if there was a summoner spell with the cooldown of Teleport, but offered a 4-5 second invulnerability to an ally, it would be considered ungodly OP, and would be complained about incessantly.

It doesn't make sense that Zac is the only champion this interaction works with, and it also doesn't make sense that you think it's somehow a sacrifice, when it's giving him a 4 second zhonya active - not to mention that you can cancel the teleport right before the end and save yourself 1/3 the cooldown.

It isn't the intended use of the spell, and doesn't make sense.

KidOmega37Jan 9, 20171 votes

I mean you can teleport to a number of champion related things. Shaco boxes, Jhin traps, Tibbers etc. and they aren't technically the "intended" use of the spell. And as far as something like that being in the game that's more or less what bard ult does and Kayle ult. I just don't see it as a game breaking thing that ever has a big effect in the game overall. There are plenty of tools to help allies that exist and this is just one of them.

dakota saturnJan 9, 20171 votes

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I mean you can teleport to a number of champion related things. Shaco boxes, Jhin traps, Tibbers etc. and they aren't technically the "intended" use of the spell. And as far as something like that being in the game that's more or less what bard ult does and Kayle ult. I just don't see it as a game breaking thing that ever has a big effect in the game overall. There are plenty of tools to help allies that exist and this is just one of them.

Those are fine - those are all minions, not actual champions.

Imagine how broken it would be if an ally could just teleport into any other ally in a teamfight, granting them complete invulnerability during the duration, and then giving them a heal after the charge is done.

That is busted, and that is how the Zac/Tele interaction is.

KidOmega37Jan 10, 20171 votes

Eh I just don't see it as busted since it's only one champion and a very specific interaction but that's just how I feel.