Unpopular Opinion: Nuking is boring

GigglesO··3 votes·279 views

It gives no real gameplay, whomever hits the button first wins... tanks should be buffed to compensate for boring nukefest gameplay.

Please downvote for obviously unpopular opinion.

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Weathered2 votes

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Please downvote for obviously unpopular opinion.

Pretty much what I came for :/

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

"unpopular opinion"

"states somewhat popular opinion"

GigglesO1 votes

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"unpopular opinion"

"states somewhat popular opinion"

Then why does everyone keep asking for more damage, and noone is asking for tank buffs.

Meep Man1 votes

Where do you live, under a rock? Literally everyone on this forum wants either damage to be nerfed or Tanks to be buffed.

GigglesO1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Toast Lord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EA8IqXEG,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-11-30T02:04:24.339+0000)

Where do you live, under a rock? Literally everyone on this forum wants either damage to be nerfed or Tanks to be buffed.

I'm pretty sure everyone that is playing rengar, yasuo, lb, kha, kat, lee sin, are all enjoying winning with their nukes, and #lcsbigplays.

Meep Man1 votes

Yes, Assassin and Burst Mage mains like damage. But everyone else just wants better Tanks.

Jaygo411 votes

Utility is so outright broken I'm actually concerned that people want it lowered.

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

You sound mad because bad.

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

I don't know which I hate more, that champions can deal such high damage that buying a defensive item makes little to no impact in your ability to survive getting ambushed by them, or that some champions have such high base damages that they can build pure defense and still kill you.

Not too long ago, buying a defensive item first would basically force a damage dealer to either farm or roam because they couldn't trade with you anymore, but you couldn't really trade back either, just endured it. Now it doesn't even matter, they eat you alive regardless.

jadelink1 votes

If you're playing a tank or juggernaught (my favoured roles) and want to compete vs burst, there are things you might want to try.

1- support tanks are not tanks, (except for an ulting Ali) they are like s3-4 junglers who aren't Lee sin, that is, they exist to unload a round of CC, then die. The support budget is simply not sufficient to build tanky on, especially when sightstone is taken into account.

2- too many tanks habitually build visage vs magic damage burst, when a Banshees veil is often a better choice, (it has more MR) especially where the initial one spell does terrifying damage (like, annie Tibberising you). If you aren't Volibear, Vlad, Nasus or someone else with great need of the passive then try Banshees over Spirit Visage.

3-warmogs (and another item with hp to activate it), is a very efficient combination vs poke, and even hard burst. So when syndra ulties you and you get away with 300 hp because you're a tank, then go hide in a bush for a few seconds and get your hp back.

4- relief lategame is on the way, blue is losing its 15% bonus AP (on the test server now) and red is losing its true damage.

5- colossus mastery is your friend, sometimes you can use this not to actually cc a useful target , but just to proc the shield and live. It's making hard cc tanks like Naut quite viable in lane. Mundo, Garen, etc are relegated to the sidelines, as they cant use it due to not having hard cc.

6- for the ad juggernaughts, remember steraks just got a cost reduction, that shield kicks in just when you need it and save a lot of lives. Maw is now also better for those who want cdr and less pen, so nicer on bruisers, worse on assassins.

Finally, Vayne is now unpinkable, nerfs might come in, but she now gets out of laning phase much stronger, and can explode tanks in 3 hits. Technically, not burst, but enough to render you useless apart from unloading 1 seconds worth of cc. Randuins and/or frozen heart helps slow the inevitable, which might mean that someone can nuke her out of existance..., which sadly, seems to be the only form of counterplay that exists past midgame.

Banning vayne, a well played tank isn't actually having such a bad time this season.

GigglesO1 votes

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If you're playing a tank or juggernaught (my favoured roles) and want to compete vs burst, there are things you might want to try.

Except all of what you mentioned does nothing when between the enemy adc and mage they can 100-0 you with 5k hp and 300 armor and MR in 2 seconds.

Or in the case of rammus 100-0 in 2 seconds with 3k hp and 450 armor and mr

Hp shred, armor shred, MR shred all are way too strong. Where is tanks damage shred oh thats right its on an adc item. item 3046

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