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How to carry those who just don't seem to want to be?

Vicarious117··1 votes·451 views

I cannot tell you guys how many times now I have personally won every single lane for my team in the early game, like they are ALL losing until I show up and my ganks, wards, and general map presence puts us in the lead. Yes, sometimes I have that one lane that does fine and I don't have to worry about them as much, but 90% of the time if I'm not in my teammates lane personally saving them or getting them a kill they will lose, and probably blame me "cause junglers"....

The issue is, when I am pinging every objective we need, giving specific directions on where to ward and move in order to not get caught out, and pinging warnings when I see a teammate(s) wondering into an area they obviously shouldn't be in, and they still refuse to even consider my directions, I have no idea how it is I'm supposed to carry them any further!!!!

I always try to push advantages, but my team would rather farm and ping me off their lanes so I don't steal farm or the best excuse "I'm trying to freeze it!" I also always try to keep wards up so my idiotic teams can actually see the horrendously predictable movements of the enemy teams, but I can only place 4 wards at a time and I usually try to keep it on the side of the map where the enemy team will be going. But ofc even when we see them walk into our jungle and obviously stop in a specific brush since they didn't appear on any of my other wards, I still have that one teammate who will ignore all the warning pings cause they just have to put a ward on that exact brush to see if the enemy team is there! And then they die.... good job getting vision on that team we already knew was in that exact spot cause I pinged them out there!!!!!!

Like it's actually easier to carry diamonds having a bad game then it is to carry these silver morons, and yes I have MANY TIMES, team builder just loves putting me into a match of 9 other diamond players, but I usually get that one bronze 5 who queued in TB with their diamond friends and wants to play adc "cause he can totally carry!" Just another hurdle :/ A lot of my friends are plat and diamond ranked players, and I carry as many games if not more when I'm queued with them then I can when solo Qing...

And finally yes, I am always trying to be as polite and calm as I possibly can, cause yelling at people literally NEVER helps anyone, but after a couple years of being the "nice teammate" I've found that in this elo it doesn't really matter, cause your team won't listen to you anyway...... It's like the best way in this elo to win is to let your lanes fail but just make sure the enemy team doesn't snow ball, cause if you get them all ahead they get over confident and don't ever freakin listen to the one guy who got them all ahead, but if they're behind and I'm not they're more likely to listen to me. And the same goes for the enemy team, when they get ahead, as long as I can keep them from getting too far ahead they will throw the game due to over confidence and with my team actually listening we can push the right objectives at the right time! But getting this nice little spot of "easy carrying" is almost impossible to manufacture without a teammate raging up a storm and ruining everyone's moods and/or feeding or an opponent snowballing just way to hard to keep control of them.

So I understand there is no such thing as "ELO HELL" as lowbies understand it, both teams are equally bad and those of us better them both teams have to just pray your team listens to you and doesn't keep throwing the match! But at the same time I can kind of see where the belief came from, if not from baddies making excuses, cause like I explained above when you get your team ahead all by yourself they will throw while the other team just tries to stall and rally, where as if the enemy team gets ahead you can get your team to stall and rally more easily then it is to finish the freakin game for some stupid reason! So it's like this constant battle where 90% of your chances of winning are almost entirely luck based and whether your team will listen to you or not.....

/rant over

7 Comments

Oddysseas2 votes

Well i didn't evwn bother to read this, imma tell you why, cause i have seen the same stuff posted from so many people that it's crazy!.

Listen man, everyone wants to win, noone wants to play to lose (except in special occasions). You win your lane only to die from feeding teamates and blah blah blah...

I was thinking the EXACT same thing, till i paid some more attention and i realized that i have lost my lane many times. I got carried myself from other teamates that were stronger, who had to counter for my bad performance and i am sure there are those games for you too.

The headline of this post, shows that you consider yourself superior to the rest of your teammates who you 'have to find a way to carry'.

With the same mentality a person on the other team who is equally as good as you ia thinking the same thing. The two of you colide and it's a matter of ( luck, skill, decisions, ect.)

What i am trying to say is that this is a team game. It's 5 v5. I can tell you of many times when kobe scored +40 points only so that the lakers lost.

If your team is bad, odds are you will lose, unless the enemy team is just as bad and you figure out ways to capitalize on their mistakes. But you ahould know there is a person in the enemy team of equal skill to you who is trying to do the same thing.

ALL games, including lol are based on chances or possibilities. Perform to the max of your skill and this will maximize your chances to win. The more you think 'i have to do something different so that we win', the worst you will perform and the less chances of winning.

Last but not least, it's really a 50-50 game. You will NOT win every game. Even if you brought bjergsen in bronze or silver or gold he wouldn't win all games. Try to stay over 50% winrate and be happy if you do.

I hope this helps.

Vicarious1171 votes

Sorry but when you start with "didn't even bother to read this" then I'm simply not going to read what you post either.

If it's cause you think I'm just blowing off the same smoke that everyone blows off then look at my match history or something, even in games where I lose I almost always have a good kda still, a 50%+ kill participation, and usually the second most wards placed and killed, behind my support usually but quite often not by very much. If it kept track of tower kills as well then I'd also say "and look how I've basically been the one to kill every tower we got."

Did catch your last paragraph though, and I am over a 50% win rate, doesn't make playing with these idiots any less frustrating.

Oddysseas1 votes

No your fumes are no different than most stuff i read every other day, good player or bad player it takes time to climb the ladder because ELO is that way.

Now KDA doesn't matter, i have had games when i was 14-4 while EVERY single person in my team had more deaths than kills or assists and i had to suffer the loss because of it, but i have been in games where i was 1-5 and got carried by a fed teammate.

Oppa Ralphy1 votes

speak no more. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=i+am+ralphy I just got demoted to silver and i'm still climbing down..

Oddysseas1 votes

You league's average MMR is 1559. Yours is 1228.

This means you will be going down leagues fast!

You will gain very little LP till you win enough games for your MMR to reach 1500. And you will be losing a shit tone till you reach the equivalent league.

This means i feel bad for you. You must start winning more if you wanna stay in that league :( im sorry...

Oppa Ralphy1 votes

I can't win though... No matter how good i do how many lanes i gank..

Oddysseas1 votes

Well maybe you are then, higher than where you belong. Not saying it's true but when you say you can't win any games.

Take my suggestion if you want, take a long break from ranked games. Try normal games, try normal cause it's low risk and low risk will help you play naturaly. Then after like a month long break and sfter being on a roll, try playing a game or two of ranked.

I tgink this will help you alot man. I know i am no expert but take my advice on this one.

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