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Champion Versatility is the Best I Have Ever Seen it

H1 H0w are Ya··3 votes·450 views

There will always be issues with a game this big and I understand that. I feel like a lot of people continuously bash riot (me included) and don't realize the improvements that have actually been made to the game.

One of those huge improvements this preseason is Champion Diversity. It wasn't long ago when every game looked like this

Top - Kennen/Jayce Jungle - Lee Sin/ Rek'Sai Mid - Syndra/Viktor ADC - Jhin/Caitlyn Support - Janna/Bard/Thresh

Since the Preseason hit i honestly fee like you can play 90 percent of Champions legitimately and competitively in your ranked games. There is a very small amount of unplayable champions such as Nunu/Lucian and it honestly feels great to have different matchups every single game instead of having to go top as Darius and play vs Jayce 8/10 games.

So if anything positive is looked upon in this preseason it should be this. Riot did an awesome job at making most champions Viable and creating a diversified Champ Pool for every single role

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Crystalysk4 votes

It used to look like that, now it looks like this:

Top - Camille/Ornn Jungle - Xin/Warwick/Evelynn/Kayn Mid - Malzahar/Xerath ADC - Vayne/Ezreal/Kalista Support - Leona/Janna/Alistar

Just because we are seeing new faces it doesn't change the fact that 100 champions out of 139 are not able to compete with the others that are dominating or at least slightly viable. If you really want to climb the ladder you can't do it with 75% of the current champions. If you pick one of the 100 off-meta or out of meta champions you put yourself already behind.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

This is just flat out wrong.

58 Champions have a higher then 5 percent play rate. The highest ever according to http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.playPercent&order=descend

Crystalysk2 votes

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This is just flat out wrong.

58 Champions have a higher then 5 percent play rate. The highest ever according to http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.playPercent&order=descend

People have been trying a lot of runes on a lot of champions this preseason, once season 8 starts people who are seriously decided to climb will leave behind half of those champions and play the ones they have had more success with. Seeing only 58 champions out of 139 have more than 5% playrate during preseason is something that makes me laugh. At least 15-20 are going to see their playrate drop once season 8 starts because people are just going to be metaslave and abuse those that are strong. There can't be variety when a game is in such unbalanced state.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

That is literally how every game works. No matter how perfect Riot balances the top 10 percent of champs will always see more play. That is impossible to fix and if that is what you are expecting then debating with you is pointless because you have unrealistic expectations. Basically 60 champions are viable enough to be played at a 5 percent or more play rate which is decent. Compare that to season 4 and 5 when their highest points reached 27 champs and 35 champs respectively.

My point still stands

Crystalysk1 votes

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That is literally how every game works. No matter how perfect Riot balances the top 10 percent of champs will always see more play. That is impossible to fix and if that is what you are expecting then debating with you is pointless because you have unrealistic expectations. Basically 60 champions are viable enough to be played at a 5 percent or more play rate which is decent. Compare that to season 4 and 5 when their highest points reached 27 champs and 35 champs respectively.

My point still stands

Your point is invalid because it doesn't count the fact that in season 4 and 5 champion poll was smaller than it is now. It means it is obvious that with 115-120~ champions released there is also a lower amount of champions with more than 5% playrate.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

35 champs in season 5 yet only had 9 less champs. Compared to 60 champions in season 8.

Try taking a basic statistics class

Crystalysk1 votes

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35 champs in season 5 yet only had 9 less champs. Compared to 60 champions in season 8.

Try taking a basic statistics class

Season 8 hasn't even started yet. You are comparing entire seasons with a preseason. During preseason people feel free to play off meta champions or out of meta champions. They won't do that once season 8 starts, unless they don't care about their rank.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

I can post those other preseason stats as well if you would like. It still proves my point.

But fine, be that way and come back and hit this comment up in 8 months. I bet anything there will be minimum 50 champs over 5 percent play rate. Which would make it the most diversified season yet

Crystalysk1 votes

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I can post those other preseason stats as well if you would like. It still proves my point.

But fine, be that way and come back and hit this comment up in 8 months. I bet anything there will be minimum 50 champs over 5 percent play rate. Which would make it the most diversified season yet

Which is going to imply that 65% of the champions are worthless and are not playable in high elo or competitive tournaments. I wouldn't call variety something that sees 2/3 of its poll worthless.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

Every Video game ever is like that. 20-30 percent of COD guns are clearly better then the rest, 20-30% of sports teams online are clearly better then the rest, 20-30 Percent of Builds in Borderlands are better then the rest. Stop expecting impossible things from Riot.

This community is just such cancer and the worst of any gaming community they expect Riot to just cater to every whim and need and do things that are impossible. I am amazed they even put up with them at all

Crystalysk1 votes

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Every Video game ever is like that. 20-30 percent of COD guns are clearly better then the rest, 20-30% of sports teams online are clearly better then the rest, 20-30 Percent of Builds in Borderlands are better then the rest. Stop expecting impossible things from Riot.

This community is just such cancer and the worst of any gaming community they expect Riot to just cater to every whim and need and do things that are impossible. I am amazed they even put up with them at all

You are fun, because your saying i pretend something from Riot. They honestly can do whatever they want with their game. But don't come here saying that they are giving us a good variety of champions that are worth to play. They just dictate what champions are good to play, you either adapt and be a metaslave to climb with the 15-20 champions that are good without having fun (unless you like those champions, but i honestly don't like playing champions that are stronger by far than 90% of the remaining) or keep playing your off-meta champions you like trying to have fun but ending up by just stress yourself because they are so bad compared to those 20 meta champions that even when you make them work you just stop climbing by default because your champion gets outclassed. In the end we are just going to see those 20~ champions rule next season again, be they old or new faces.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

I reached D4 last year strictly maining Trundle and Hecarim. Your argument is completely invalid

Crystalysk1 votes

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I reached D4 last year strictly maining Trundle and Hecarim. Your argument is completely invalid

Congrats, but lets be honest... My argument would be invalid if D4 was actually high elo. But honestly it isn't. That being said, peace.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

It is the top one percent of the player base so yes it is High Elo.

Also that is extremely ironic coming from someone who has never made it past Plat.

You are just Hell Bent on Holding this L in this argument aren't you?

Crystalysk1 votes

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Also that is extremely ironic coming from someone who has never made it past Plat.

I had to quit league this summer for 3 months, account demoted to gold for inactivity, came back just after the end of the season and made it to D5 which is also was its rank before reset. I wonder if you even think before typing. Congrats again.

H1 H0w are Ya1 votes

This isnt even mentioning that not a single champion has over a 7 percent ban rate which is unheard of and proves the notion that their arent obvious over powered pick or ban champs like there usually always is

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