Seriously, can we stop pretending Supports NEED support items?

TeCoolMage··6 votes·771 views

I see so many people say that Relic/Spellthief's/coin is 100% necessary for their beloved supports to succeed.

Newsflash!: Their kits were designed to work on their own.

Soraka's job is NOT to heal others while regaining 10 health per minion death or sustain until you both back She's supposed to be this healer with health regeneration on her Q who'll obliterate the entire enemy team by keeping her own's health up as long as she hits her Qs That's what he's supposed to be, no Ancient coin needed, just enough healing to do so!

Lulu's job is to just reign supreme in Teamfights with strong AoE poke- She has a huge AoE Slow projectile, a strong AoE knockup, a mobile Q kite spell and a devastating point and click polymorph. No need for 15 extra damage and 15 gold on each hit.

Janna's job is NOT to damage you with repeated autos that lead up into a extra gold and damage just cause she managed to keep you in range long enough for her to get autos off on you. She's about setting up her tornadoes, knock you up and let her team kill you with the setup she had with managing her tornadoes.

Braum's job is NOT to execute minions with auto attacks and give free gold after repeatedly having hit the cannon minion and kept the ADC in range for the passive to function

The pattern is clear; Support items provide an ADDED bonus to these champion's kit, not something that's 100% necessary. In fact I'd argue that the gold is excessive power and being abused just because the item offers a ton of viability for champions to function in bot lane in general.

Seriously, anyone who thinks it should be a core part of a Support's build is either: A) High B) Dumb as heck C) A masochist or, most likely D) A support main


SORRY I THINK I WENT TOO FAR WITH THIS ONE

Edit: lmao whenever a post is made against marksmen or mages it's a meme, or true, but whenever a post is made against supports they're suddenly victims to a terrible crime and must work together to stop an injustice. Literally 8 replies within 10 minutes, based on my notifications, all being the same typical "omg u stupid non support main you'll never understand my suffering"

It's a joke guys, quit being assholes simply because supports were involved and stop changing the subject to be about sight stones and warding.

Sigh. I hate this stupid circlejerky support cult

Just in case you got lost and needed to be herded back to the sheeple pastures for upvoting nerf Mage/marksmen posts;

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/zgfG0uMt-seriously-can-we-stop-pretending-marksmen-need-hurricane

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/7GiuXabE-seriously-can-we-stop-pretending-mages-need-rylais

19 Comments

NiamhNyx4 votes

Ahh yes, remove those items :P i dont need the gold from em anyways. Lets just go back season 3 and be wards bots!!!! HHHUUURRAAAHHH whos with me? lol

SchmidttyGames4 votes

Without a gold earning item, I would never really earn anything but base gold. That would delay the purchase of my sightstone, make me hesitate to buy vision wards, and since I don't CS in the Support Role (barring melee champions and the execute thing), I'd be even more useless than I already feel like I am.

VoidStaresBack4 votes

+1 for entertaining parody.

Desolas Arterius3 votes

If this was supposed to be a "meme", shouldn't you have posted this in Memes & Games? I get you were trying to be tongue and cheek about this, but that type of humor doesn't translate well on the Gameplay board since, well, Gameplay is to talk about your personal strategies, to speculation about the next champion and/or patch.

Just an idea. I get what you were trying to go with, but again, that doesn't translate well over text and in a board that tries to have serious discussions (key word: tries).

TeCoolMage1 votes

Look at the posts at the end. Gameplay, upvotes, hurricane was a satire to the one about Rylai's.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

I understood that. I'm just saying this type of post has a risk to be downvoted in Gameplay :P

If that was your intent then I guess you succeeded? But yeah.

I get that it was supposed to be a satire joke, but not everyone is going to understand and legitimately think you believe supports don't need support items. (and from what I've seen in gameplay, bashing supports is a dangerous line to tread lol)

Was just trying to be helpful :P

NiamhNyx2 votes

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Look at the posts at the end. Gameplay, upvotes, hurricane was a satire to the one about Rylai's.

who said "omg u stupid non support main you'll never understand my suffering"?

Maybe you are the one who needs to understand a joke?

EDIT: Desolas is right though, be careful when saying anything about supports, I take jokes well, hence all my comments above this :P. Its a knifes edge for support jokes.

Ralanr2 votes

Yeah you did considering support items are meant to help their income when Rylai's is unrelated to that.

Athenes Lulu2 votes

Seriously, can we stop pretending supports have actual income outside kills/assists?

NiamhNyx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E8yTHQfy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-10-17T17:21:15.941+0000)

Seriously, can we stop pretending supports have actual income outside kills/assists?

I think we should make the support passive gold gain lower. I mean come on, 28 minutes and i have made a total of 9k gold... thats waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much man. Pshh

Athenes Lulu1 votes

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I think we should make the support passive gold gain lower. I mean come on, 28 minutes and i have made a total of 9k gold... thats waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much man. Pshh

yeah we should

its not that they needed gold anyways tbh

NiamhNyx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E8yTHQfy,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-10-17T17:27:28.627+0000)

yeah we should

its not that they needed gold anyways tbh

Boots and sight stone support, season 7 meta

Athenes Lulu1 votes

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Boots and sight stone support, season 7 meta

season 3 never forget [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

NiamhNyx1 votes

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season 3 never forget [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

I believe I would have almost 20-25 wards on the map at a single time in those days.

DrCyanide2 votes

SORRY I THINK I WENT TOO FAR WITH THIS ONE

Yeah... you blew it with this one...

LoomberFoot2 votes

Supports need coin/spellthiefs/relic for the gold income because if we try to cs 90% of time we get flamed for taking their adc even if we need the gold.

D3M4L1S2 votes

As soon as you guys stop complaining that supports must buy a sightstone.

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

Supports don't need support items, but on the same line of thought you don't need to have a fun and balanced game where someone actually want to play support ever.

Friendly Ram2 votes

The gold items aren't necessary but they are useful in allowing you to build items. Also you can just dump it into your sighstone to grab an extra item slot. The main problem is the "supports " who don't build a support item usually are the ones who steal cs and kills.

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