We have not clearly separated those two types of stealth, and so we’re doing a consistency pass on stealths, and breaking them into two categories: camouflage and invisibility.
You guys said somewhere that teemo would be given invisibility even though his stealth is passive like hers.
So is there one whole category of stealth just for eve or am I missing something here?
Catastrop1 votesI think it's more Eve's the only person who has camouflage so far, Teemo's stealth will definitely be invisibility because he can't move around like Eve unless in a brush.
Surr20plz1 votesI think it's more Eve's the only person who has camouflage so far, Teemo's stealth will definitely be invisibility because he can't move around like Eve unless in a brush.
Yeah, but if you're gonna rework something into 2 categories and then you find that all but 1 fit into a certain category, then maybe you should rethink your categories or go about it in a completely different way that is universal for all.
Mimy1 votesI think rengar will be camo
Gamer Girl Paige1 votesSome have it for a few seconds like rengar and kha zix
Darth Pixy Misa1 votesRengar is a hunter and should use Camo to hunt prey.
Billy VoHagen1 votesTwitch probably as well.
Surr20plz1 votesI'm pretty sure Twitch isn't camo because it's an activated stealth, same with Rengar.
Sightless662 votesI'm pretty sure Twitch isn't camo because it's an activated stealth, same with Rengar.
Where was "activated stealth vs passive stealth" the criteria? Meddler separated the two based on the idea of stealths being used as in-combat fighting mechanics, while camouflages aren't used in-fight, but instead to start fights or gank or roam. Rengar's stealth fits perfectly into that category. Its primary function is getting into fights. Tweak it very slightly more in the direction, and it's a camouflage.
Surr20plz1 votesWhere was "activated stealth vs passive stealth" the criteria? Meddler separated the two based on the idea of stealths being used as in-combat fighting mechanics, while camouflages aren't used in-fight, but instead to start fights or gank or roam. Rengar's stealth fits perfectly into that category. Its primary function is getting into fights. Tweak it very slightly more in the direction, and it's a camouflage.
I mean activated as in used for fighting not ward dodging. Whatever, Meddler already said Eve is currently the only one. She won't be at the end of preseason though.
Sightless661 votesI mean activated as in used for fighting not ward dodging.
He's not exactly using it in a fight. He uses it to get into one, not once he's already there. Eve does the same. Uses it to close, but not actually in the fight. It's the same criteria.
Whatever, Meddler already said Eve is currently the only one. She won't be at the end of preseason though.
Well, of course. Eve is the only one right now because she's the only character who decloaks when enemies get close. That's what makes camouflages different from stealths. By definition, she has the only one.
The point is, Rengar and some others have stealths which meet the criteria for what he said should be a camouflage. He said that long-duration stealths used for getting into fights should be reclassified as camouflages.
That's why the answer to your question of "So is there one whole category of stealth just for eve or am I missing something here?" is no. The category isn't just for Eve. It's for Eve, and the champions who use their stealths in the same way Eve does and will be adjusted to fit into the new camouflage group.
VoidStaresBack1 votesRengar's is likely going to be camouflage because it shares purpose with Eve's: it's a tool to approach a fight and sneak past wards, not a tool for in-combat shenanigans like most temporary stealths.
DunkinNoobs1 votesRengars will be camo. Riot really isn't sure what to do with Twitch yet.
Surr20plz1 votesMeddler said Eve is the only Camo champ right now, but she won't be after pre season.
Which means either someone is going to have their stealth reworked into camo or we're getting a new stealth champ.
Oleandervine1 votesMeddler said Eve is the only Camo champ right now, but she won't be after pre season.
Which means either someone is going to have their stealth reworked into camo or we're getting a new stealth champ.
Perhaps Warwick will have stealth. He is slated to be dropping sometime around preseason's end.
Surr20plz1 votesThat would be interesting.
WoonStruck1 votesAny stealth that lasts more than a second or two (in-combat) will likely just be camo.
Riot said in-combat stealth is the only type retaining true invisibility.
Surr20plz1 votesThe only champ in the group is eve. If they meet the criteria they would already be in the group.
The point is if Rengar was going to be classified as that Meddler would've said Eve and Rengar.