This is a rule that a lot of players don't know about.
I'm still seeing report johnny for feeding, etc. in almost every game.
I feel like some text needs to be added to the new client under unsportsmanlike conduct or verbal abuse.
Maybe even give it it's own box to check because it is that prevalent.
Maximum Morde20 votesNo, it's harassment, not unsportsmanlike
redfeenix3 votesJust wanna clarify that maliciously calling for reports is harassment, but gently reminding players to report someone that's truly awful is not.
For example picking on someone and saying gg report the junglers is harassment.
But reminding players... Remember to report the jungle that flamed all game ... Is not.
Just my opinion you can correct me if I'm wrong
IreliaCarrlesU2 votesbut theirs no sufficient situational difference, if your asking for a report against anyone. you've been annoyed to the point where your attempting to influence other to punish that player. its unsportsmanlike either way.
if an Olympian's team mate left in the match and said fuck you, and the remaining Olympian went on an interview asking poeple to tell the other Olympian that what he did wasn't cool, itd still be harassment.
The part that makes people feel its okay, is that were too used to being able to voice our opinions as facts.
Herbal Kent14 votes[deleted]
Nameless Voice1 votesSame.
If the person in question is clearly and obviously trolling, I usually let it slide - though I might kindly point out to them that one report counts as much as 9 - but if I can't see the other person having done anything wrong except maybe play badly, I'm reporting the one doing the asking.
Sp33d Zer01 votesAnd for people who ask you to report afkers?
Touch My Box6 votesIt shouldn't be against the rules.
If you can make a case as to why a certain player is ruining the game, why should you be punished?
I personally think anyone who reports another player for anything but picking Lee Sin needs grow the fuck up...
But if you have a rude team mate who takes someone elses role, or trollpicks because their champ was banned... In the spirit of asskissing the Riot system, wouldn't you want them to get some Instant Feedback for their punishment even faster?
Surr20plz4 votes[{quoted}](name=Its Not Shacko,realm=OCE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l0GtXUgn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-06T11:12:09.720+0000)
It shouldn't be against the rules.
If you can make a case as to why a certain player is ruining the game, why should you be punished?
I personally think anyone who reports another player for anything but picking Lee Sin needs grow the fuck up...
But if you have a rude team mate who takes someone elses role, or trollpicks because their champ was banned... In the spirit of asskissing the Riot system, wouldn't you want them to get some Instant Feedback for their punishment even faster?
I agree with you sir!
However the good people at Riot do not see it our way.
So since it is in fact against the rules. It should be clearly stated in the client somewhere considering how rampant this behavior is.
Maximum Morde5 votesActually, since the system is machine learning, it must be getting tons of reports for said behavior and thus learns that the player base doesn't consider it acceptable. Individuals may disagree but the weight of reports suggests the community as a whole disapproves. Which makes sense. Nobody likes a tattletale whiner.
elduris14 votesHonestly, I can see both sides. But, since 1 report counts as much as 9 reports, there's not really a purpose to ask someone else to report. Just make a note to do it yourself and you're golden, my friend.
RizHippoKhan1 votesi know i'm stupid but i always wondered why is your and Wuks name in blue?
PaladinNO1 votesOn mouse-over, you'll see his title is "Arbiter". Following that:
;)
RizHippoKhan1 votesoh thanks xD
PaladinNO4 votesI just gotta know one thing: is calling reports a reportable offense?
No, I never do call reports myself, and I consistently (but quietly) report those who do call reports for unsportsmanlike/negative behaviour.
And when I do see such a call, it also makes me far less inclined to actually report the person that was called out for whatever he or she did as a result.
Nameless Voice8 votesPaladinNO2 votesThank you.
redfeenix1 votesSo calling for reports withing the game is toxic, but its fine once the game is done. Good to know.
Nameless Voice1 votesI think that's a case of poor communication by the Riot support staff. Asking for false reports after a game is still being toxic, and a lot of people will still report it.
I think what he meant was that it's okay to discuss e.g. if someone was actually intentionally feeding or not, but it's still not okay to say "report my jungler because I have to blame someone for this loss."
Surr20plz2 votesHonestly, I can see both sides. But, since 1 report counts as much as 9 reports, there's not really a purpose to ask someone else to report. Just make a note to do it yourself and you're golden, my friend.
Hi Elduris,
I'm glad you showed up here.
I know you're addressing someone else's concern, but please consider passing along the concept in the original post.
Thanks for your time.
bleufromage1 votesDo you work at riot.... Well if not don't state what they think. I does not need to be posted because riot makes the decision on if something is reportable. If you're afraid to type an explanation in your report then maybe your shouldn't be reporting
Surr20plz2 votesDo you work at riot.... Well if not don't state what they think. I does not need to be posted because riot makes the decision on if something is reportable. If you're afraid to type an explanation in your report then maybe your shouldn't be reporting
I pity you. You have no idea what the point of this post is.
bleufromage1 votesSave your pity I dont want or need pity over a board post about a computer game and your opinion. At some point you have to grow up and maybe act like it.
Surr20plz1 votesSave your pity I dont want or need pity over a board post about a computer game and your opinion. At some point you have to grow up and maybe act like it.
You may not want it, but you definitely need it.
No one needs a clueless potato in this thread though so gtfo.
Disregard this moran and please refer to OP post.
This needs to be added.
bleufromage1 votesare you trying to spell moron
bleufromage1 votesI find it funny how toxic people, that call people names, will post on the boards about their being a need for more categories in the report menu. "moran" "clueless potato" "gtfo". Its funny in an ironic way especially since the boards are a place where someone is free to speak their mind.
bleufromage1 votesare you trying to spell moron
You may not want it, but you definitely need it.
No one needs a clueless potato in this thread though so gtfo.
Disregard this moran and please refer to OP post.
This needs to be added.
Awoof1 votes[{quoted}](name=Its Not Shacko,realm=OCE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l0GtXUgn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-06T11:12:09.720+0000)
It shouldn't be against the rules.
If you can make a case as to why a certain player is ruining the game, why should you be punished?
Because you gain nothing from it but negativity, and then there are people who think you should be reported for feeding after dying three times in lane, those people flaming in the chat is unnecessary as well. Report them legitimately, they are flagged for the game. Additional reports won't increase this. If your report weight is small because of a lot of illegitimate reports, your judgment probably doesn't justify public outcalls anyways.
I personally think anyone who reports another player for anything but picking Lee Sin...
Aaaand that's a great example why this exists.
But if you have a rude team mate who takes someone elses role, or trollpicks because their champ was banned... In the spirit of asskissing the Riot system, wouldn't you want them to get some Instant Feedback for their punishment even faster?
Sure, just the little detail that it doesn't actually make it faster.
But hey, you sound like someone who'd never unnecessarily call for someone to be reported /s
Mistress Madoka1 votesImean, you could Just as easily Explain the reportable offense to everyone and not include "Pls report"
Because then you're not asking for reports
if enemies report them that's their own perogative. You simply let them know why your team is at a disadvantage/Shared your frustration with another player online (Hopefully in a positive manner)
Damagefox3 votesCalling for reports is already against ToS and |unsportsmanlike attitude"
Calling for Reports is counted as a form of Harrassment. Harrassment is reportable. It is also known as "Report Soliciting" which (as far as I have been told in support tickets) is against the ToS If someone is doing something reportable, report them. But you are not allowed to use the report function as a bludgeon to beat people over the head with it, Nor are you allowed to turn it into a witchhunt by "/all Report X for...."
So yeah, if you want to report someone, fine, do it quietly and by yourself. But you are not allowed to dogpile the other players onto 1 person by calling for reports from the other team.
Thats why people do it so often. Because no one calls them out on it. No one tells them that by them calling for reports on others, THEY THEMSELVES have commited a reportable offence. So Reports: Keep it silent, Keep it to yourself. Gonna report? DO IT. But you arent allowed to sick everyone else in the match on one person.
Surr20plz2 votesCalling for reports is already against ToS and |unsportsmanlike attitude"
Calling for Reports is counted as a form of Harrassment. Harrassment is reportable. It is also known as "Report Soliciting" which (as far as I have been told in support tickets) is against the ToS If someone is doing something reportable, report them. But you are not allowed to use the report function as a bludgeon to beat people over the head with it, Nor are you allowed to turn it into a witchhunt by "/all Report X for...."
So yeah, if you want to report someone, fine, do it quietly and by yourself. But you are not allowed to dogpile the other players onto 1 person by calling for reports from the other team.
Thats why people do it so often. Because no one calls them out on it. No one tells them that by them calling for reports on others, THEY THEMSELVES have commited a reportable offence. So Reports: Keep it silent, Keep it to yourself. Gonna report? DO IT. But you arent allowed to sick everyone else in the match on one person.
No shit it's against the rules.
It needs to be in the report subset text because a lot of people DO NOT KNOW it's against the rules.
Damagefox1 votesOnce people start getting punished for it, they will clue in. The smart ones will learn, the rest will keep getting punished and wondering why, all so they can get thier "Report high" for being able to say "/all Report X for >insert minor offense here<
Honestly I had someone do that to me...because I got more kills than them, so they cried "/all report damage for Killsteal"
Surr20plz2 votesOnce people start getting punished for it, they will clue in. The smart ones will learn, the rest will keep getting punished and wondering why, all so they can get thier "Report high" for being able to say "/all Report X for >insert minor offense here<
Honestly I had someone do that to me...because I got more kills than them, so they cried "/all report damage for Killsteal"
Do you really not see how "Once people start getting punished for it" isn't a good way to make this rule known to the public?
I'm not even going to make an analogy.
Are you an adult?
Dear Father Christmas,
Please let a Red see this thread and make sure they put some text about this into the new client.
Telephone Booth2 votesDo you really not see how "Once people start getting punished for it" isn't a good way to make this rule known to the public?
I'm not even going to make an analogy.
Are you an adult?
Dear Father Christmas,
Please let a Red see this thread and make sure they put some text about this into the new client.
Lol jesus. Have a discussion ffs. "Are you an adult"? Lmao. You just made yourself sound childish. Uncalled for, not the way to discuss issues. Discuss the issue without insulting people. It feels good to have a nice adult discussion/debate... try it sometime.
Surr20plz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l0GtXUgn,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-07T04:14:42.681+0000)
Lol jesus. Have a discussion ffs. "Are you an adult"? Lmao. You just made yourself sound childish. Uncalled for, not the way to discuss issues. Discuss the issue without insulting people. It feels good to have a nice adult discussion/debate... try it sometime.
I won't make a post to discuss idiocy.
But I made an exception for you.
EndlessSorcerer3 votesAFAIK, that would fall under Harassment.
It would be beneficial though considering how many players don't know how the report system works.
Bloodmorne3 votesso was johnny feeding tho?
YerAWizardCarry2 votesThe thing I hate the most is when your having a bad game and your losing lets say 0/5 but its obvious your trying and someone says: /all report champion for intentionally feeding
Ztoka2 votesSometimes calling for a report is justified. Say cases when your teammate keeps afking. The enemy team might not realize it so it is something that could get attention called to it. Chances are though, the enemy team won't report the guy who afked on your team or even the feeder. Why would they, your afk/feeder just helped them win the game. Which brings us to the point, calling for a report normally won't get someone to do it so it is pretty pointless. I will sometimes do it for the afker/rage quitter but even then,it is rare.
Masterkerfuffle4 votes1 report matters just as much as 9 for the automatic punishment system.
Surr20plz1 votesI see what you're saying but about a reporting johnny for feeding meta.
They have defined certain things as being toxic when said.
I've never heard of that shifting. It seems like once something is on the shit list it stays.
Furthermore this behavior is tied to a feature of the game that isn't going anywhere.
It's not like people were saying wubbalubbadubdubbbbs! and that was considered toxic for a time then people stopped saying it and it became ok again.
We have no precedent that anything that is punishable has become nonpunishable, and again this behavior is tied directly into a feature so I feel like even if things could fall in and out of punishment this is something that can be on the permanent shit list along with racism etc.
EvilMerodach1 votesI'm still seeing report johnny for feeding, etc. in almost every game.
I'd just like to point out, even if it's clearly stated in black and white 'do this' 'don't do that' people will still do it.
I mean I get a 'ggez' in at least 1/3rd of games still..
So yeh, Riot directly leaving a msg saying 'don't say report (player you want reported)' People are still gonna do it.
But it probably should be directly in the summoner code, just so there's less ground for people getting banned to whine about it and say it was uncalled for/unfair/they weren't toxic/etc
KoKoboto1 votesI find most often I ask a person to get reported I end up with a "The person you reported got punished" or something along those lines.
Riot needs to be more clear about everything tbh
Surr20plz1 votesI find most often I ask a person to get reported I end up with a "The person you reported got punished" or something along those lines.
Riot needs to be more clear about everything tbh
Unfortunately yes, even though they say that it takes only one report. Almost all of our personal experiences (including my own) point to the contrary.
Azure Hamster1 votes"unsportsmanlike" report is gone in the new client anyway.
Surr20plz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Azure Hamster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l0GtXUgn,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2016-12-06T20:20:18.064+0000)
"unsportsmanlike" report is gone in the new client anyway.
I forget what the new heading is, but my point is the same.
Azure Hamster1 votesI forget what the new heading is, but my point is the same.
Not really. The new headings don't quite cover the same ground as "unsportsmanlike" did. Like, I don't know where to file the "gg ez" shit in the new system. Doesn't look like they want reports on that anymore.
PlanetWarwick1 votesWell everyone needs to know it's the amount of games that person is reported in then 9 in one game
Shaco my BFF1 votesYeah, report Johnny, that Cpt. Douche.
EchoZeero1 votesSoliciting a report is against the rules, yet in season 6 I was banned for 2 weeks and lost 2600+ teamwork after my own team of premade 4 trolled me, left me to die in every teamfight and convinced the other team I was feeding on purpose. It's against the rules but Rito does not act or enforce it. Trolling is not punished and players like me who never even got a single warning since 2012 get abused by a shitty system.
