Right before we remove one of her core items
Just... wtf...
p.s. By viable I of course mean "can lane versus an assassin without being a complete liability", which... yeah seems to be the only thing you're looking for in a mage these days
asktiks2 votesyeah its stupid...
I mean I don't care, what ill do is replace my magic resist blues for AP and compensate for it but why bother?
ill just roll velkozz and kill you from under MY tower instead, see how they like it now
or I could join the bandwagon and spam yasuo zed mid too
disregardable1 votes...I give up, who is it?
Sightless661 votesHe's talking about Syndra.
disregardable1 votes"immobile"?
Sightless661 votes...Yeah? She has no mobility skills and she has 330 movespeed. That's pretty immobile.
disregardable2 votesIt's just that it's usually reserved when it's a specific weakness, ie with Annie. Syndra has so much power and range that she can safely tower dive. What does it matter if you're "immobile" when all of your abilities are out of any champion's range?
Sightless661 votesShe has strengths that make up for her immobility, but she's still immobile. Immobility doesn't have to be something crippling. Same for people like Xerath or Zyra. Long range makes up for no mobility (and Syndra's range isn't even all that). As for what it matters, it does make her positioning more difficult and it does decrease her safety. She can compensate for that some, but it is still something her enemies can take advantage of.
Immobile = no mobility. I do gotta say, she does fit that bill.
disregardable1 votesZyra is immobile because she is short range, no escape, and not enough power to one shot people like Veigar. Xerath is not immobile because of his crazy ass ult. Seriously he barely needs to move. They're also useless in the current meta. If you want a poke kit, you bring Ziggs. But no one wants a poke kit.
Sightless661 votesZyra isn't short range. She has quite long spell ranges. Longer than Syndra's for sure. She can one-shot people pretty well too. If you're saying Syndra's range makes her not immobile, you have to give that same consideration to Zyra. Xerath's ult... well, it's not the focus of his kit. His power comes from other avenues. Also, what does "he barely needs to move" have to do with whether or not he's immobile? He has nothing to make him move. Mobility is the ability to move. Immobility is the lack of the ability to move. Xerath lacks any movement abilities. That makes him immobile.
Also, who says Zyra and Xerath are useless? Xerath still sees competitive play (more than Ziggs does) and Zyra has plenty of success at high-level play. She's even come back into being a successful mid laner, not just a support.
And anyway, that's irrelevant. Whether they are strong or weak and whether their kits are desired or useless isn't really something that matters to whether or not they are mobile or immobile. Immobility can help make something useless or useful, but something's usefulness is not used as a measure of whether or not they are mobile or immobile.
Immobility and viability are not the same thing. A champion doesn't have to be crippled and useless to be immobile. They just have to lack mobility.
Wînter Fox1 votesDoes not compute.
Maximum Morde1 votesSyndra. Possibly, maybe also Annie.
stealthfox941 votesGood riddance.
COWmanLord1 votesThe nerf isn't huge and it only makes any real difference during the first few levels of the game. By lv 5 10 damage isn't going to make a serious difference and let's be honest syndras early game was a little crazy.
Auryiel1 votesThe nerf isn't huge and it only makes any real difference during the first few levels of the game. By lv 5 10 damage isn't going to make a serious difference and let's be honest syndras early game was a little crazy.
You really think -20/15/10 damage on her main harass spell isn't a huge nerf? Land a Q 3 times at level 1, that's a whole basic attack's worth of damage you're missing. Syndra basically goes from really strong laner to kind of a pussy until she hits 6 :|
And tbh what annoys me is not so much that they nerfed her and more that they nerfed her right before they remove an item that's so important for her. I honestly do not think she needed both nerfs.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesYeah, cause when I wanna go mid as a melee champ, getting hit by Syndra's Q whenever I wanna AA a minion is so much fun.
Auryiel1 votesI guess it's better to just play almost any other mage and get utterly crushed by melee mids without them actually ever breaking a sweat, huh?