zoe isn't even that bad I don't understand the hate

LetMeAfkPlss·3/24/2019, 2:26:06 PM·2 votes·1,326 views

she's a very inconsistent midlaner I'd compare her to ahri minus all the mobility and a shitter cc ability/wave clear early her entire kit boils down to how much the enemy laner will allow her to do what she can do and will tell the difference between a dumb enemy and a smart one

will you allow the zoe to hit a max range q ?

will you allow the zoe to wave clear fast?

will you allow the zoe to go ss and hug the walls meanwhile in anticipation of her infamous E ability?

will you punish the zoe who just missed E or q?

will you abuse zoe lack of mobility outside of flash?

will you flash in zoe's spells pick up range? (bad idea)

people forget when they say "ooh she just one shot me with one ability zoe is cancer" that she landed an entire combo it's no different when talon or diana or zed do their full combo except it's less point clicky and harder to pull off just try it yourself, try her in her free week or buy zoe then refund her and before you do see how many times you can land the E>R>max q range (or E>R>max q>flash) combo even with a lot of practice especially on a moving target

even when zoe is ahead she can't one shot u in 0.0001 seconds because she still relies on landing that combo to do damage she has no X items powerspike every time she wants a kill she needs to earn it unless the enemy just straight up gave it to her

when zoe is behind she's reduced to being a second support or an E landing bot in other word she's kind of useless and that's almost always the case because she has a hard time winning lane against any competent player

her abilities are relatively "low cooldowns" for a reason because her combos are hard to hit I'd say that's a barely fair trade you get infinity ammo with low accuracy that's zoe

the only part of her kit i consider excessive or "cancer" as you'd might like to call it is her w; infinity summoner spells on literally no cooldown even if it's rng is kinda too much tbh even for a "hard champoion" but that's just my opinion

tl;dr: zoe only scales with enemy IQ if you got shit on by a zoe you probably got smurfed on because she's so shit or you are even worse who knows

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Cind3rkick3/24/2019, 2:35:17 PM6 votes

will you allow the zoe to hit a max range q ?

will you allow the zoe to wave clear fast?

will you allow the zoe to go ss and hug the walls meanwhile in anticipation of her infamous E ability?

will you punish the zoe who just missed E or q?

will you abuse zoe lack of mobility outside of flash?

will you flash in zoe's spells pick up range? (bad idea)

The same could be said for all champions though...

Will you allow vayne to get through early easily?

Will you allow her to push you into walls?

Will you punish a bad tumble?

Will you abuse her need to get that 3rd auto on someone

Or:

Will you allow yasuo to save his windwall for your ulti?

Will you allow hin to dash through the entire minion wave to you

Will you allow him to freely stack his third q?

thefatlazycat3/24/2019, 2:34:59 PM4 votes

The problem is that zoe is one of those wonky CertainlyT champions where they offer little counterplay and most of the fight is decided by the player playing the champ, making them infuriating to play.

Packun Flower3/24/2019, 2:34:03 PM2 votes

Yeah and she's still being hit nerfs. Shes, not fun/rewarding to play now and she doesn't even one shot champions anymore. Her win rate I believe is abysmal as well.

IAmTheLego3/24/2019, 4:46:12 PM2 votes

I don't find Zoe op or anything. That one is not even the problem.

The main problems are these: 1- She gets on your nerves when you play against her. 2- Her W is a cheap fail safe if she misses her E Q combo (and that's shit design). 3- She's a CT champion.

Infernape3/25/2019, 12:43:23 PM1 votes

I hate her because she's pre rework Nidalee on steroids. The only difference is she has no mobility and no healing. Their play styles are the exact same. Pre rework Nidalee attempted to oneshot you with a max range spear out of nowhere and Zoe tries to do the same thing with her Q. That and her RNG W.

The problem is, either Zoe is capable of oneshotting champs or she's useless. Her kit will never be balanced with number changes because of the inherent nature of it. Her kit is built upon something that got a champion Olafed then reworked.