How long are we gonna pretend that irelia is balanced?

CppL·6/5/2018, 5:01:37 AM·55 votes·18,981 views

Not saying she is like super op ,but come on.She needs 1 item and she outscales you no matter what.She can be like 0/3 ,doesn't matter.At first i though it was me who suck ,but then i watched some high elo player streams and she"s almost 100% pick/ban champ...how come she didint get a single nerf in patch 8.11? she"s S tier top laner since her rework.

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Harden Stepback6/5/2018, 8:08:52 AM13 votes

who is saying she is balanced? broken champion along with Camille

Ragnaveil6/5/2018, 5:13:45 AM12 votes

You say that, but then Singed still exists as a very easy counter for her while still being a top tier champ that has gotten nothing but buffs for patches and patches straight. Reminder on why thats the case: Irelia's early game is very garbage, as any other diver's (Including Aatrox in certain matchups) compensating for a better late game. Singed is somewhat weak early, but spikes at level 3 (Obtaining the last basic spell), and is pretty much relevant because he has an easy way of staying prevalent even when down by proxy, which no one can achieve without very strong waveclear abilities and sustain (which most, heck, even almost all other toplaners only have one or the other, or both but in a weaker state to compensate). I'm getting a bit tired as a top main for such a pick like that to be the best safe pick in the game. People thought Maokai was a issue for being a safe pick. This is worse than that.

Bobloser35556/5/2018, 8:58:19 AM9 votes

better nerf Irelia

TEA Nietzsche 6/5/2018, 7:54:48 AM5 votes

How long are we going to pretend that toplane isn't the least impactfule role in the game?

Irelia and Camille are strong in a way that is really healthy imo - they aren't lane bullies and instead are actually super vulnerable in most matchups, however they do scale well and can actually carry the game if given the chance. Why don't we just buff other healthy toplaners up to their level? And with healthy I mean not ranged champions who aren't supposed to go top and waveclear tanks (Mao, Cho etc - Shen is okay!)

Besteal6/5/2018, 1:15:29 PM4 votes

Well, actually. she needs at least 2 items to be a real danger, or at least 1 item plus a tiamat. And that one item is the most expensive item in the game, too. She requires almost 5000 gold to be useful. Plus. She's a hard scaling champ. Hard scaling means she is SUPPOSED to scale harder than most of the champions she faces in lane, not to mention the fact that most of her lane opponents win the matchup against her. You bash her in lane, and then you end the game before she can scale. That's how it works against all scaling champs.

GGLineaR6/5/2018, 6:03:49 PM3 votes

She's actually like, the one champion that Yorick beats at all stages of the game.

Not saying she's balanced, but I think the biggest problem with her is the sheer amount of mobility she has, which makes her more annoying than anything else.

From what I see, Irelia is only really difficult to fight as a toplane carry. If you play a Tank or a Juggernaut, she's not all that tough to deal with, because your goal can't be to out dps her, her mobility makes it so she can avoid anything that's not a point and click. Your goal has to be to out farm and out last her.

So I don't think she's busted, I just think she's natually good against toplane damage dealers, because they all tend to rely on AoE, or some kind of aggressive mobility, which is easily countered by defensive dashing. From what I can tell, most tanks have very little problem with her at all, because they shrug off her early game damage, then buy armor, and can either ignore her entirely, or kill her with base damage if she gets cocky.

9IX66/5/2018, 5:42:31 AM2 votes

It's all about to your skills, just because she counters your personal champion pool only means that you have to work on your skills and polish yourself. She is a very-well made champion.

P.S.: I do not main Irelia, I am not defending the champion.