Zilean just isn't fun to play against

Hello I am Bird··4 votes·886 views

Now he is not OP, mind you. Not by a long shot. He may be a bit balanced actually (though I don't play him much in depth so I can't say).

However, his kit is just unfun to play against.

Let's try to take a closer look

-Passive: The enemy ADC now is a level ahead of you. Congrats they get their ult first. Gl -q: May be hard af to land, but despite the fact that I was probably outplayed, it sure doesn't feel like it. His bomb stun feels cheap. -w: A part of me wants to hate this ability, but in all reality, its fine. e: Probably my least favorite part of his kit. Nothing like getting practically snared for around 4 seconds. Or getting the enemy to charge at you with the speed of a sion ult. I really just don't like the versatility and the amount of potency this has. Probably the worst part is that he needs this ability to be anywhere relevant. r: Nothing like a lose-lose situation. Zilean ults the ADC I now have three options

1: Run from the ADC now, even if they were at low HP, because they will kill me within that period that they have the hourglasses around them 2: Try to continue fighting while an ADC is mowing down your team 3: Kill the ADC that is at low HP and watch as it revives with their full health bar.

Again, I can't say that Zilean is OP, just that I hate what his kit does inherently and that it isn't fun to play against. And when you win against a Zilean, it's almost always a stomp against him, which isn't much fun either, unless you have some vendetta against Zilean, which I for one don't.

EDIT: I'm not asking for ways to beat Zilean. I win most matches against him anyways. It's just a pain doing so that I have a problem with.

9 Comments

Illiad2 votes

When you look at his design flaws, he only has one means of actually doing damage to an enemy, through his Q, leaving him vulnerable if the enemy evades this. even just one takes away the stun he relies on to trade safely. His E simply allows him to set up and safely make those plays against players. His PLAYSTYLE dictates he uses bombs to stun and either move himself, and ally, or slow an enemy depending on the situation. he has alot of diversity in capability, you just hate trying to work around his qualities. Zilean Learn the old man before snapping at em.

Hello I am Bird1 votes

I don't like working around the qualities he has because the qualities he does have are insanely annoying :v

Illiad1 votes

Sometimes we just need to overcome "annoying" qualities, otherwise we wouldnt have a champion like Shaco

Alakalzam1 votes

I liked Zilean more back when the bomb was point and click.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

Remember the revive takes time. So killing the ADC in a team fight, mopping up their team or swarming around their reviving corpse, means that their new lease on life is meaningless.

Gigahappytown1 votes

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Remember the revive takes time. So killing the ADC in a team fight, mopping up their team or swarming around their reviving corpse, means that their new lease on life is meaningless.

that won't happen in a realistic scenario, and zilean would most likely just stun you and speed up the adc since you just burned all your cc.

Zilean is really good right now with 45% cooldown and a skillful player

He still needs a real passive though.

Zileans early game isn't as bad as people think it is

He is squishy but thats it.

during late game you usuasully average 2500 2700 hp so thats not a problem really.

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

Zilean has an extremely weak early game, as he is very squishy, weak to poke, and he hasn't scaled. Mid-late game is where Zilean shines, with his almost never ending 99% speed/slow, very low CDs, and extremely powerful ultimate.

Honestly, if you hate fighting Zilean, you probably didn't shut down his lane. "Well you can't shut him down because he has his ult, slow, snare, etc". That's completely wrong. A heavy burst/stun/silence will demolish him. A Leona ult/engage with burst is enough to kill him. He is one of those supports like Soraka where if you don't kill her first, you are ought to lose the fight thanks to her healing. Same goes for Zilean, and even Kindred (ult).

My point is...

He is very weak early game, where you can poke/engage in him. He is mana hungry, hasn't scaled, weak all around. Shutting him down early is very helpful, as his mid-lategame is very strong. Burst him down fast enough so he can't ult. AoE CC team comps destroy him. I do agree he is pretty damn annoying (can't kill one of his teammates, insane CC and utility).

Slamurai Jack1 votes

Old Zilean was way, way worse.

Nekusen1 votes

id rather face 20 Zilean before a Sona or Blitzcrank

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