Where Are the Shield Counters?

okamiyasha95··2 votes·1,809 views

Seriously? Everything in League has a counter. Excessive healing? get executioner's or mortal reminder. AP damage? Get MR. There are champions that reduce AP. MR? Get magic pen. There are champions that reduce MR. AD? Get armor. There are champions that counter and reduce AD. Armor? Get lethality and armor pen. There are champions that counter and reduce armor. Stacking health on top of health? Get Lord Dominik's or get BOTRK. Even champions have abilities against this. AS? Get Frozen Heart, Thornmail, or Randuin's. Hell even champions have abilities that reduce AS. MS? Get Frozen Mallet, Randuin's, or some other active slow item No mobility? Get Mobi's or get some other item that boosts MS Invulnerability? CC works like a charm and Zhonya's helps. Shields? THERE'S NO FUCKING ITEM THAT BUILDS AGAINST IT. THERE IS NO CHAMPION THAT COUNTERS IT, but there ARE items that buff shields.

CC is not a counter to shields. Out-bursting shields is not a counter. I want an item that either disables shields temporarily when activated on a single target or AT LEAST allows its buyer to deal extra damage when attacking against a shield. OR instead of making Zoe, delete her and create a champion solely created around countering shield champions so Blitz can see the light of day against shield spammers. I'm tired of having all my efforts thrown down the drain because some brain dead ass champ pressed a button and became damage-proof as well as made their teammates damage-proof. The Guardian keystone is alright, but that coupled with shielders is disgusting right now. Everybody's talking about a power creep, but nobody is talking about how broken and uncontested shields are at the moment.

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ShadWooo4 votes

Yes there is no counter but shields were nerfed so hard most enćhanters with them are not even viable...

okamiyasha951 votes

Depends on what you mean by viable. If you mean popular in pro play, yeah. But in no way shape or form are shields weak and not viable. They just aren't as overpowered as they used to be and shielding champions were only as OP as they were because they had great poke damage on top of their shields, but their shields' power didn't really get touched.

Alzon1 votes

Aatrox and Irelia have kit elements that counter shields. Otherwise, you can brute force through it or back off and wait for it to expire. Shields (like all things) tend to wither under concentrated fire.

OtterlyLost1 votes

Irelia? Aatrox? the fact most only last 2 seconds and have 6+ second CDs? The fact that most heal and shield enhancing passives were butchered? Are you really sitting here complaining about shields when they are the weakest they've ever been?

okamiyasha951 votes

Okay. So, I see it says that Aatrox's Deathbringer Stance and Irelia's Ionian Fervor deters shields. I read the description and I guess if you want to play tit for tat, my post is wrong about nothing countering shields, but are those champions solely meant for countering shields? How often do those champions lane against opponents with shields? It's not like those champions are support champions. What about them is an item that can be bought to fit to any champion that buys it? According to most, bruisers are the weakest they've ever been. That's not stopping people from complaining about them. The only reason they're the weakest they've ever been is because Ardent Censor and Aery got nerfed and Janna got nerfed. Let's be clear; Shields were overpowered before, but just because they toned down their effectiveness to make them more balanced, doesn't mean they are balanced. You've just been used to them being the best for so long. By no means are shields weak.

OtterlyLost2 votes

They are balanced though. Theres a reason that you dont see enchanter supports like lulu, janna, and karma; because they are terrible and cant reliably deal with the current meta. Which is an issue since this is the kind of meta they should be able to deal with; bruisers and assassins are common, all in supports like alistar, pyke, and thresh are meta, and yet none of the enchanter supports are stand out individuals.

Shields are garbage.

okamiyasha951 votes

That's because of the meta. Everything is geared and centered around damage rather than sustainability/utility. Which is one of the reasons we aren't seeing much of Susan lately. It's more about early game leads than surviving til the late game, but any champ that gives their teammates sustainability is overpowered right now. I won a game 4 v 5 where my ADC fed and then AFK'd cuz of bad connection. We ended up winning team fights easy even though bot lane was able to get a huge cs advantage because no matter how much damage they dealt, I mitigated it. In the same token, if things were flipped, I would have lost too because damage mitigating champions are a bit more powerful than what they should be. It's not like they have only shields in their kit and nothing else. If that was the case, then I wouldn't be as angry at how essentially powerful they are.

But I do agree with you. Other things are worth nerfing than shields ATM. But I guarantee you, if and when they nerf damage like how everybody is telling riot to, shielders and enchanters are going to sky rocket up the charts. Healing supports have taken the shielding champs like Nami's, Sona's, and Soraka's place because with the high damage steroids, they are able to increase their poke damage. Thus, having great early, mid, and late games. Alistar is just kind of broken with his ult. Thresh is the meta in high elo. In low elo, he's garbage and not as viable as people think. Thresh relies too heavily on his teammates being able to use his carry potential to their advantage.

Mordepool1 votes

What's the counter to Ranged stat check then?

okamiyasha951 votes

As in? I'm just not understanding the question. Could you explain for me?

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