Zed vs Fizz and Ekko

WitchQueen Annie··1 votes·985 views

So I pick Zed... but the enemy locks in Fizz mid and Ekko top.

Now how the hell am I supposed to play this game?

If Fizz gets so much as 1 kill (or maybe its 2), he can literally tower dive me. Also, Zed's Ult is useless even before they have Zhonyas (and both Ekko and Fizz will get it in short order); I mean Ekko has several abilities to outplay it and Fizz has his absolute BS Trickster to prevent me from even applying it.

Meanwhile, Fizz walks around the lane as soon as he hits 6 like a total boss. He never has to launch his Ult, he can just threaten me with it to zone. Oh and if I start Shuriken farming? I'm never out-trading him because I'm 1 ability down. If I try to double Shuriken him, he can just press E RIGHT BEFORE a Shrunken will hit and then counter attack me.

So what am I supposed to do?

Teamfights? Don't even get me started. Between 2 Zhonyas, Trickster, some Ekko rebounding BS... its near impossible to do anything. Split push? How can I when they are just as mobile but can 1 vs 1 me.

So in terms of game balance... Fizz and Ekko have less 1 shot potential than Zed RIGHT? To make it fair right? Nope.

2 Comments

Infernape2 votes

You can punish Fizz incredibly early. Freeze the wave near your turret and make him overextend to CS. When he does overextend, call your jungler immediately.

Fizz has no ranged waveclear or poke (unlike you) and has to burn mana to last hit reliably and waveclear (his W and E respectively). You use Energy so your resource is effectively limitless (provided you don't just mindlessly spam your abilities).

Every time he uses his E you have a 18 second window to punish him.

When Fizz inevitably roams because you've bullied him out of lane, make sure your team knows he's coming for them. Even if you have to spam "?" until the button breaks.

Just by being Zed, you force him to buy an early Seeker's/Zhonya's (skewing his build immensely).

Ekko's simple. Do not ult him if you see his hologram. All he'd do is wait for the last second before Death Mark procs and just Zhonya's or ult. The easiest thing to do is force him to ult prior to you using Death Mark so all you'd have to do is press R and use a Shuriken or two to kill him or making him ult before the mark procs.

Watch out for the audio cue of him using his W (it's easy to bait someone into standing in its circle). Make sure you do not stand in his Q and disengage if he has two stacks of Z-Drive Resonance on you.

Make sure you rush an early Hexdrinker to prevent your death from either of their all ins. If you feel uncertain, take Exhaust instead of Ignite to really screw with their all ins.

######I legit hate facing Zed when I play Fizz.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Punish Fizz if he ever uses e by going in on him before he gets a zhonya, after that just don't 1v1 someone built for killing squishies, itemized against you and who's kit counters yours. Zed was just at a disadvantage in champion select. Do they have an adc? Go kill them instead. If you have to shuriken farm why are you trying to trade with him in the first place, play defensively and save w to escape. Rush hexdrinker. Zed isn't always going to crush lane and snowball.

Just splitpush, you have enough mobility to escape because of your R shadow + w + item 3142 neither Ekko or Fizz should catch up to you unless Fizz lands an ult but just ward so it doesn't come out of nowhere.

Ekko is balanced right now, yea his kit is uninteractive with mindless Q waveclear but he isn't a champion a burst assassin isn't supposed to be 1v1ing because of his ult. A drawback to that though, is that he only has 2 real abilities to do damage with. Unless you're hit with his stun, he really shouldn't be killing you or you've messed up really badly.

Fizz's balance is questionable though.

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