Ok, I understand galio needed a rework....

Raoul··91 votes·5,858 views

But as far as the teaster tells, it seems like you just took the name and the rest is pretty much a new champion...

Totaly new look, looks cool, but not like Galio at all... And it seems like he has a new ult that is totaly different and some knockup/knockdown spell...

So... did you just make a new champion and named it Galio?

197 Comments

midnight oil2446 votes

Sort of like sion. Funny how that works.

Raoul27 votes

Sion kinda kept his personality, his most iconic spell was his shield and they kept that, his new skin felt like and upgrade to the onld one instead of a replacement too.

midnight oil2433 votes

If I remember correctly, it was confirmed somewhere that galio will still have an AoE taunt, just not on his ult.

Melledoneus4 votes

If it's better than Shen's I'm gonna flip.

Imperial Japan1 votes

Just another champ to our pool :D this one just for vs heavy AP teams

Melledoneus2 votes

I know. But AoE taunt on a basic ability is Shen's thing and if Galio's is more accessible then wtf is Shen than a shield bot every 3 minutes.

In all seriousness I'm considering setting up a page for Galio. Already own him.

RecessHero4 votes

Because having a global teleport shielding ultimate doesn't give Shen enough of an identity?

Off Meta Evan7 votes

It gives him an identity but that basically just makes him a walking ULT, aka what the rework was supposed to change cause previously he was so bad that's basically all he was.

warpenguin55522 votes

Sion's old personality was like some silly zombie. He's not a silly zombie anymore

Atanchan47 votes

He was a cassette tape of Arnold Schwarzenegger impressions put on loop. That's seriously it.

sir d wreck5 votes

I always wondered how 'Get to tha choppah!' tied in with the lore.

mr Boombastic7873 votes

Luckely he's not. Well I Think everyone can agree on that new Sion is so, SO much better than old Sion.

Golden Tager X2 votes

His most iconic thing was his late game 100% as and lifesteal steroid, you know, his ult. A champion's identity is tied to their ult (except for a very very very minor case of champs where it doesn't seem impactful but 100% ls and as is incredibly impactful.

But I mean, you think of Malph, ult, you think of naut, ult, you think of nami, ult, you think of syndra, ult, etc.

Random Dancing7 votes

The first thing I think about for Naut, Syndra, and to a lesser extent Nami is not their ults. Their identities are not tied to their ults. Really could have picked some better examples if you wanted to demonstrate something.

Anags2 votes

Lol, no. Sion is a completely different champ from what he was.

Chromatic Eagle19 votes

Sion was basically a pop culture reference in the game. Galio had a personality.

midnight oil244 votes

That is true. But it's also true that he didn't really fit in demacia, land of swole men, not to mention that it's an anti-magic country. Why would a magical golem be allowed there?

Greenheath5 votes

Since when is Demacia anti-magic, isnt Lux a magic user??? It says in her lore she went to the College of Magic... which I'm assuming is in Demacia.

Darksun Dragoon6 votes

Lux was a spellthief. She used enemy magic against them. The lore explanation for her Light Binding was that she stole the spell from Morgana's Dark Binding. So... somewhat antimagic. Then again, that was all before their retcon of the Institute of War, so no clue if any of that is even canon anymore.

WoonStruck5 votes

You'll notice pretty much everyone from Demacia is non-magical.

Lux is the biggest exception.

Magic is extremely closed in Demacia.


Remember that Demacia is, in fact, a loosely fascist kingdom.

Sir Fuzzi19 votes

My problem is that the 'terrifying zombie' part of Sion's 'goofy-ass, but still kinda terrifying zombie' is what they kept in Sion's design which was a trimming of anachronistic design choices regarding his character. His kit had a lot of the same elements (exploding shield and a hard, short-range stun) while abandoning the ungodly mess that was AP Sion.

I won't comment on the gameplay, but like I said, my problem is that while they kept the core appeal of Sion's design, Galio has gone from a quiet, stoic protector to some "do u evn lift bruh ?" shit overnight, with a physical design that's more akin to goddamn Ultraman or a Power Ranger enemy than a gargoyle (or, for you lore-nuts, a gargoyle-inspired construct).

'The Colossus,' I get it. I truly do. It's just that the whole thing is irritating; the VO, the design, the complete flip in personality, it's just so not Galio. It's not an expansion, or a focusing-in of anything that was Galio before. It's just... like, the kind of thing I'd expect to see in a League knockoff, and that's what they pass off as Galio. It doesn't help that his theme went from mage to punch, which just sort of adds insult to injury-- Sion never really stopped being a line-forcing, axe-wielding juggernaut. Galio will most definitely stop being a mage tank. I'm not sure I've ever seen 'Warden' used to classify a champion before new Galio. Is this a new thing?

Yorick, Poppy, Warwick-- you can see the similarities. Even in Taric, it's just like I said before; they're routinely shedding the points of the character that make them anachronistic considering modern design values (IE out of place humour, 'cartoony' elements, parodies [Sion was just Arnie. Don't even]) and the end result is, give or take, the 'edgy, modern' version of the champion before. Of course, shedding conservative design elements doesn't make them bad and my distaste of Poppy's snaggletooth aside, all of the reworks have been fantastic on a visual level. Gameplay wise, they've all felt more conducive to an identity (although I don't feel Taric was lacking in that before his update).

Galio is barely discernible as having been even inspired by old Galio. Everything about the design is a total flip over, from the austere, dark, (attempt at) gothic architecture up to some sort of Power Rangers-inspired white mess. They talk about marble but don't use any of the good effects marble could have; instead he's just some chalky mess with gold wings slapped on for good measure.

People aren't wrong. This feels like a new champion they're just replacing Galio with. Imagine, just because they both eat things, Tahm Kench having instead been a Cho'gath rework. Galio was more than an AoE taunt. He may not have been good at showing it, but he was.

I'm not even a Galio main. I thought he was one of the more interesting tanks, but I wasn't mad crazy over him. It's just that this is such an incredible departure from the tried and true methods of the team, and I feel like nothing anyone liked about Galio-- kit or design-- translated into the new work.

Greenheath13 votes

Totally agree. Just hearing his voice I was instantly put off. Galio, the Sentinel's Sorrow was sad and tired. He is no longer.

Cresmont3 votes

question about galios identity

as someone that plays the game and actually likes the game for lore and stuff and cares about identity (im a jhin main :^) ) SO has galio just kinda become zac?

  • both wanna be heroes that arent really heroes
  • both goofy -both "tough"
  • both have a protector kind of feel
  • cocky and arrogant as hell
  • charming personality kit and playstyle wise, i dont think they'll be that similar but the main question is, if zac is supposed to be the goofy hero wanna be and galio has been remade into that... where does that leave zac?

EDIT i remembered that a rioter said that theyre gunna change zacs q and r most likely in the tank update, so would zac be more of a chaos focused niche then?

Catastrop40 votes

It's almost like he got a full VGU. Weird.

DoktorKaiser28 votes

Yeah this is the first rework that has absolutely 0 connection to old champion, even Sion or Yorick who were quite different had some vibe of their old selves left in their kit and design, I mean what the actual fuck, Galio didnt even need a rework all that much, some champs have much worse and badly functioning kits like Tryndamere, Swain, Eve or Urgot, I am just soooo mad that they literally took 1 of my mains and fucking deleted him forever and put some pile of uncreative shit in his place...

Woodakoodashooda14 votes

Correction, he did need a rework.

Additional, we have no idea what has been done to Galio beyond a teaser and his new appearance.

Ahristocats10 votes

he didn't need a full VGU

he needed a new passive and few number tweaks to be a support like he was in 2011

Ralanr15 votes

I'd rather we stop putting midlaners in bot as supports.

Ahristocats6 votes

He wasn't a midlaner originally

And even then, with a new passive and number changes he could have worked in midlane

Ralanr8 votes

His passive was a terrible one for a support since you're not exactly rushing MR. So even if he was designed to be a support, he migrated to midlane and stayed there for a lot of people. Turning him into a support would be like forcing Vi to no longer work in the jungle: Sure they now work in their designed role, but it's a role that their mains were never used to playing them in.

So doing only a few tweaks to make Galio a support might be as big a middle finger as a relaunch.

Ahristocats3 votes

Read above

the kit of galio would still be strong in the midlane

Ralanr6 votes

If you're pushing him to primarily be a support though, he'll be pushed more towards support through nerfs. Like how Tahm lost his top lane potential.

Ralanr9 votes

Still has the AoE taunt, so he still has a connection.

Very Hard Engage3 votes

video didn't show that.

what they did show was a knockback + -> knockdown, so galio wont be getting hit at all.

Ralanr17 votes

You're right, the video didn't show it. Thankfully Reave pointed this out in the Reddit thread and said the AoE taunt is now a basic ability of some form.

So he does still have it and still has a connection to what he was.

Very Hard Engage5 votes

thats meh. it needs to be that pronounced effect or its hardly going to be worth it.

overall im seeing too much cc and not early enough damage or wave clear to warrant taking him mid lane.

Joxcab3 votes

A Rioter said he's meant to be Top too.

Very Hard Engage19 votes

naw they took a bunch of crap together from various champs and threw it onto "galio hype" train and hoped it wouldn't get noticed.

cough vi, aatrox, alistar cough

YCitizenSnipsY9 votes

They did the same thing with Jhin and people on these boards call him one of Riots best champions.

Cosmic Warper3 votes

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They did the same thing with Jhin and people on these boards call him one of Riots best champions.

That's because his passive and ult concepts are very unique. Galio's kit honestly looks uninspiring.

Glory ln Death2 votes

That's because you've only seen a brief clip of 3 of his abilities, and not even a very informative clip. We don't know any of the details of his kit. Do the same thing for Jhin's abilities, and he looks really boring and not very unique.

Illâoi Evê Siôn11 votes

He still has his taunt and his gust of wind. He's still a gargoyle. He's still an anti-mage/warden. It was obvious they weren't going to keep much more. Why else would he need a VGU?

The only thing I dislike is the shift in tone. He's much brighter now, in voice and color.

SzGamer2278 votes

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But as far as the teaster tells, it seems like you just took the name and the rest is pretty much a new champion...

They took the champion's general archetype and name and created a brand new champion that meets modern standards.

Galio is part of the Sion Poppy Yorick club now.

Sraeg20137 votes

Karma

Baron von Jiggly6 votes

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áza8 votes

No offense to the community but honestly, just enjoy the new update for Galio. You guys bitch and complain about not having a rework, but when the rework DOES show up some people just hate on it. How do you think the devs feel after working hard on a project just to get negativity.

ALSO There is negativity and constructive criticism. Get it right.

Boop Daddy 9 votes

I didnt think Galio really needed a VGU. I was interested to see what would come of it, but now I guess Ill just wait til tomorrow to cry over the loss of a main.

Awoof9 votes

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No offense to the community but honestly, just enjoy the new update for Galio.

I mean, you can't really tell people to "just enjoy" if they dislike something. Well, you can, but it's stupid.

You guys bitch and complain about not having a rework, but when the rework DOES show up some people just hate on it.

It's fascinating how the community consists of multiple people, isn't it.

How do you think the devs feel after working hard on a project just to get negativity.

Either, they don't care and focus on the good feedback, or they realize there are things they could have handled better but are content with their work overall. They probably won't curl up in despair, they are adult workers.

ALSO There is negativity and constructive criticism. Get it right.

I get your point, but if people dislike it they are free to voice their opinion. The last thing riot wants is everyone just shutting their mouth. (Sorry, this may have been a bit too nitpicky, just kinda went on with it)

VvVVvV5 votes

I liked Galio. The only thing I ever thought needed changing was his passive. He was the only champ in the game that you could cancel out his passive just by not having a AP champ. he would have no need to buy magic resist.

Votable Jester8 votes

Cough Rammus Cough Kassadin Cough Sejuani Cough

I know none of them are totally useless in those situations, but neither necessarily is Galio's.

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