so the"bruiser keystone" is not mainly made for bruiser

Purgë··2 votes·833 views

so meddler said that the keystone that synergizes with "fighters" (he said not specifically for them) will be on 8.6, maybe PBE'd on 8.5. wow so we will end up by something like an adc keystone ofc wich is viable on fighters XD (or a tank keystone) this company make fake promises everytime no bruiser update no bruiser keystone WE WANT A BRUISER ONLY KEYSTONE that works great for bruiser and maybe can be viable on other roles not the opposite I DONT WNNA SEE ADCS RUNING AROUND ABUSING THAT KEYSTONE LIKE EVERYTIME

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Bant Exalted3 votes

What you're proposing defeats the entire idea of Runes Reforged. The idea is to have many different kinds of Runes a potential champion could take into different matchups, not one specific rune made for a certain champion type. You're supposed to be able to customize your character depending on your play-style and matchup, and what you have proposed will bring us right back to the old Runes, where there was really only a single viable way to build any one champion.

Giving a Bruiser-specific keystone would mean that there is a bland default keystone specific for bruisers, and that there will be no real reason to use any other one save exceptional circumstances. This is exactly the same as Runes and masteries were before. It is highly important that Runes are not specified, and that multiple kinds of Champion-types can share the same Rune.

What they're doing sounds fine, but neither of us have seen the thing yet so you're drawing conclusions from thin air. You haven't seen it yet. No information has been released about what it does yet. You know nothing about what the Rune does yet. Let's wait and see before making threads complaining at Riot for something you have no clue of, and that your understanding of is misguided of to begin with.

highnivia1 votes

Are you ridicilous? Do you actually think that Guardian or Aftershock and countless others are keystones NOT specifically designed for the role they are mainly used on?? Are you actually happy to see a vayne running around with dark harvest cus hell yea shes trying new things out that could definitely work on an adc. Also do you actually think if you hipothetically spoken play your main champ whatever is it now in ranked and you have a runepage for this main champ are you actually thinking pre game oh boi suddenly i dont want to have fleet footwork with triumph legend alacrity and coup de grace on my adc anymore cus i think doing nothing fits the role i will fulfill in this game more. Riot created horrible things like lanebully camille and desparation bruisers trying to somehow get to scratch the 50 percent winrate border cus they have to somehow compete with not farming at all against every single lanebully ever to exist in this game and being outdamaged by tanks cus they all have incredible keystones that suits all their needs. You cant go around and say "oh no a bruiser specific keystone cant exist" cus other classes very damn well all have their own keystones SPECIFICALLY made for only them despite other champs being able to sometimes abuse them aswell. And i can even list it for you Precision: All 3 keystones specifically made to fulfill every need an adc may or may not even have (they are basically always just taking the one with the best numbers at the exact moment not the one they sinergize with). While bruisers use this aswell its only cus they are forced to cope their needs with practically the worst fervor replacement i could ever think off that has a part in itself that makes you think pta is made for supports. Domination: Electrocute is clearly made for assassins and enables them to oneshot despite being behind while providing nothing other than a little bit of bonus damage if you actually are ahead quite controversial but basically a life insurance if assassins fail in lane. Predator: Made for 1 champ specifically but 1 class cant have a rune?(hi heca) Dank Harvest : For Junglers that want to scale up and are scared about not doing enough damage in the lategame (Basically backing up jungle bruisers) although not being taken a whole lot since games scale. Also a rune suiting well for assassins. Sorcery: aery : every single lane bully (Literally not even context required on that one) Also on shield supports Comet : control mages Phase rush: Mages that do enough dmg but need movement speed?(Basically riots bad attempt to recreate Stormraiders without the feast or famine style that made it so worthwhile to take) Resolve: Just no not even explaining that one anyone who doesnt know tanks have several keystones shoved up their ... is literally blind or doesnt know runes reforged even exists. Oh also guarding is great for support tanks Inspiration: Gotta give riot the credit the Keystones in inspiration are not created specifically for adcs or to support adcs to do their job (which is pretty much a surprise on its own at this point). Doesnt mean they are balanced they are broken on their own without being specifically designed for a class. So after this is done we know that every single role in its own has atleast 1 keystones specifically made for them with the only class being left is the class that had the strongest mastery before the runes reforged patch and was balanced aka nerfed around how strong fervor was. And now the bruisers are left lying in the corner (Feast and famine being turned into the state the losing country will have after ww3) being able to do barely anything to tanks no matter if they are ahead since they were left with small number buffs that are a joke in comparison to all the nerfs they got the whole season 7 long for having the strongest keystone. And what keystone do they need to use? Well anything they can find really. Camille needs to bully lane now despite being the strongest scaling fighter in game? Yasuo coping with Budget warlords while even the old warlords was dogsht on him. Fiora stealing gold from her enemies with klepto instead of actually doing dmg?. And gp being the Single king of Toplane having found a rune that supports his braindead playstyle in lane? Thats utter bullsht and you know that saying bruisers shouldnt have an exclusive keystone thats specifically made for them? That is infact a reason to complain and cant be overlooked cus it goes to show the hostile attitude riot has towards bruisers this season waiting so long to step in and then not even going all the way is a ridicilous action from them and this needs to be spoken out about and already is by a lot of Big names and its a pity you deny that this is not right and shouldnt have been made a thread about...

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Are you ridicilous? Do you actually think that Guardian or Aftershock and countless others are keystones NOT specifically designed for the role they are mainly used on?? Are you actually happy to see a vayne running around with dark harvest cus hell yea shes trying new things out that could definitely work on an adc. Also do you actually think if you hipothetically spoken play your main champ whatever is it now in ranked and you have a runepage for this main champ are you actually thinking pre game oh boi suddenly i dont want to have fleet footwork with triumph legend alacrity and coup de grace on my adc anymore cus i think doing nothing fits the role i will fulfill in this game more. Riot created horrible things like lanebully camille and desparation bruisers trying to somehow get to scratch the 50 percent winrate border cus they have to somehow compete with not farming at all against every single lanebully ever to exist in this game and being outdamaged by tanks cus they all have incredible keystones that suits all their needs. You cant go around and say "oh no a bruiser specific keystone cant exist" cus other classes very damn well all have their own keystones SPECIFICALLY made for only them despite other champs being able to sometimes abuse them aswell. And i can even list it for you Precision: All 3 keystones specifically made to fulfill every need an adc may or may not even have (they are basically always just taking the one with the best numbers at the exact moment not the one they sinergize with). While bruisers use this aswell its only cus they are forced to cope their needs with practically the worst fervor replacement i could ever think off that has a part in itself that makes you think pta is made for supports. Domination: Electrocute is clearly made for assassins and enables them to oneshot despite being behind while providing nothing other than a little bit of bonus damage if you actually are ahead quite controversial but basically a life insurance if assassins fail in lane. Predator: Made for 1 champ specifically but 1 class cant have a rune?(hi heca) Dank Harvest : For Junglers that want to scale up and are scared about not doing enough damage in the lategame (Basically backing up jungle bruisers) although not being taken a whole lot since games scale. Also a rune suiting well for assassins. Sorcery: aery : every single lane bully (Literally not even context required on that one) Also on shield supports Comet : control mages Phase rush: Mages that do enough dmg but need movement speed?(Basically riots bad attempt to recreate Stormraiders without the feast or famine style that made it so worthwhile to take) Resolve: Just no not even explaining that one anyone who doesnt know tanks have several keystones shoved up their ... is literally blind or doesnt know runes reforged even exists. Oh also guarding is great for support tanks Inspiration: Gotta give riot the credit the Keystones in inspiration are not created specifically for adcs or to support adcs to do their job (which is pretty much a surprise on its own at this point). Doesnt mean they are balanced they are broken on their own without being specifically designed for a class. So after this is done we know that every single role in its own has atleast 1 keystones specifically made for them with the only class being left is the class that had the strongest mastery before the runes reforged patch and was balanced aka nerfed around how strong fervor was. And now the bruisers are left lying in the corner (Feast and famine being turned into the state the losing country will have after ww3) being able to do barely anything to tanks no matter if they are ahead since they were left with small number buffs that are a joke in comparison to all the nerfs they got the whole season 7 long for having the strongest keystone. And what keystone do they need to use? Well anything they can find really. Camille needs to bully lane now despite being the strongest scaling fighter in game? Yasuo coping with Budget warlords while even the old warlords was dogsht on him. Fiora stealing gold from her enemies with klepto instead of actually doing dmg?. And gp being the Single king of Toplane having found a rune that supports his braindead playstyle in lane? Thats utter bullsht and you know that saying bruisers shouldnt have an exclusive keystone thats specifically made for them? That is infact a reason to complain and cant be overlooked cus it goes to show the hostile attitude riot has towards bruisers this season waiting so long to step in and then not even going all the way is a ridicilous action from them and this needs to be spoken out about and already is by a lot of Big names and its a pity you deny that this is not right and shouldnt have been made a thread about...

first learn to work on your formatting this hurts a lot to even attempt to read. Second the idea isn't to have every single rune have the exact same value for every single champion but to have those champions have a wide variety of options they choose from. There is no "this is the rune you take if you are X" but "here are all the options that are available to X type of champions"

highnivia1 votes

First of all its 8 AM so i couldnt really give less fcks about formatting a Forum post legit. And second the system your talking about is a fantasy world far away from anything that ever exists in league. Zed will always take what grants the most burst. Xerath will always take what grants the most poke dmg. There is no deciding and everythings open to decide from. That system doesnt work. Everytime after a new big patch is out people go out of their way to research it and find the most broken shit and thats not ever gonna change. Dont expect a balance that cant exist and sacrifice a shifting somewhat balance that is easily doable for riot but they just dont cus they dont design the bruiser keystone for bruisers only. Having it be open for other champions aswell most likely refferring to it being the same for melee and ranged champs means its either bad in numbers so adcs cant abuse it or it grants effects that tanks can abuse better than bruisers can and its not gonna fix any issue in either of those cases.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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First of all its 8 AM so i couldnt really give less fcks about formatting a Forum post legit. And second the system your talking about is a fantasy world far away from anything that ever exists in league. Zed will always take what grants the most burst. Xerath will always take what grants the most poke dmg. There is no deciding and everythings open to decide from. That system doesnt work. Everytime after a new big patch is out people go out of their way to research it and find the most broken shit and thats not ever gonna change. Dont expect a balance that cant exist and sacrifice a shifting somewhat balance that is easily doable for riot but they just dont cus they dont design the bruiser keystone for bruisers only. Having it be open for other champions aswell most likely refferring to it being the same for melee and ranged champs means its either bad in numbers so adcs cant abuse it or it grants effects that tanks can abuse better than bruisers can and its not gonna fix any issue in either of those cases.

if you don't give a fuck about formatting then i don't give a fuck about your response

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