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special PSA for rito games

ivan usi virgin··40 votes·3,021 views

hi rito, my name is AdoIf Hit Her. i have a special PSA for you, and to an extent, for the league of legos community. let's talk about the defining trait that makes a champion broken :)

first, let's clarify what broken means, as opposed to overpowered. broken essentially refers to a fundamental aspect of the design of the champion's kit which causes this champion to have an unfair advantage over non-broken champions, regardless of circumstances. overpowered essentially refers to the tuning of a champion's numbers. so, a champion can be broken, but not overpowered (Ekko) and a champion can be overpowered but not broken (Annie) great, now that that's out of the way, let's look at some champions that i would consider broken.

in no particular order: Ekko Katarina LeeSin Camille Yasuo

now, at this point, you're probably thinking, "but Adolf, you're just a salty retarded noob :))"

and if you are thinking that, you're probably right. but that doesn't make me wrong. ask yourself, my good chum, what do each of these champions have in common? that's right friendo, near infinite mobility. mobility, of course, meaning some form of dash or gapcloser or hard disengage like lee song's ult, not movespeed (sorry Udyr). "but Adolf, Yasuo and Camille's mobility are conditionial!!!!1111! and Ekko uses mana!11!!" and yes, that is true, but that's why i said near infinite mobility. there are very few champions in this game with near infinite mobility, and the ones that do have it have an unfair advantage over non-broken champions regardless of the situation, regardless of who's fed, hence, broken.

now, this isn't to say that all broken champions have near infinite mobility. it's more so all champions with near infinite mobility are broken. there are other types of broken champions, like this asshole TwistedFate but that's a whole other topic. in conclusion, i leave you, my dear league of legos community, and you, my beloved rito games, with this final message: if you want this game to be as balanced as it can be, stop making champions with near infinite mobility.

thank you for your time. merry Christmas and happy holidays.

-AdoIf Hit Her

36 Comments

Princesita36 votes

"but Adolf, you're just a salty retarded noob :))"

LMAO I died

Tyler1Clone3 votes

Its sad cause its true people don't even discuss they just say "You're a retarded noob" and stop listening anytime Yasuo or any of these champions balance issues are brought up

Shadòw22 votes

hi rito, my name is AdoIf Hit Her

LMAO

Tyler1Clone9 votes

Adolf Hitler was a very bad man but that we can joke about him shows that we're able to move on. If we act like it's a taboo subject he wins

Troll for Trump2 votes

yeah no, that's like saying you can throw the n-word around because slavery was something that happened in the past, and acting like a taboo subject means racism wins.

rtbf2256182413 votes

Ofcourse you can move on from things that never affected you or that you don't know about or can't comprehend.

Joking about him means most people don't know enough about his actions and he is being slowly forgotten outside of general knowledge.

PureUtterCancer2 votes

I'd say just his name is not taboo per say, but making fun of genocide is not lol, there's moving on and not giving him the voldemort treatment, and that's fine, however making light of sadistic acts like human experimentation and mass genocide is not ok. The reason that's taboo is so that ideas like that are less likely to spread and happen again, even though things like that still happen. lmao that is the reason for taboos. Respect the proper taboos without taking all of life too seriously, that's the key.

18 NAKED COWB0YS7 votes

nice name reported toxic triggered banned.

ivan usi virgin4 votes

thanks dad

GULAG 4 U1 votes

lul

SlntReaper5 votes

Your name aint so nice either

18 NAKED COWB0YS4 votes

Joke flew over your head and many others

Dextix LT1 votes

Aren't jokes supposed to be funny?

Brain Errör 4047 votes

While this is an enjoyable post, I find your definition of Broken and Overpowered to be a bit obscured. Ekko's kit is definitely a numbers thing, easily balanced and predictable. It takes a good Ekko to accomplish tasks, thus, making him overpowered which can be fixed with tuning issues since he has a very flexible kit.

Annie, on the other hand, is down right broken. Not only is she a numbers problem, her kit and her play style is also a problem. "Stay away from her" is her counter play. While her AP ratios may not be the highest, and her mobility may be zilch, she's still a balance problem for the game. When Fizz Enthusiast talked about fun factor -- for players playing against and with certain champs --- Annie was one of the firsts to come to my mind. She has her own flaws, like everyone, but I do believe super simple, yet super strong and effective kits like Annie's are problematic.

Mobility creep is also another issue for the game. The champs you mentioned are definitely problems to the games, in more senses than one. As for TF, he isn't problematic. He's fine as he is and his early game is rather weak. So take advantage of it. :)

On that note, good post and good read. Enjoy your holidays and Merry Christmas Adolf Hit Her.

ivan usi virgin4 votes

i think one of the primary points of my argument that i forgot to address in my post was that balancing a champion essentially leads to both parties being happy. if one champion is too strong then the people who play against that champion will obviously be salty and cry to rito (like me :D) or if that champion is too weak then the people who play that champion will be unhappy. with champions like ekko and the others mentioned, it's really hard to find that middle ground because if the numbers are overtuned then that champion is absurdly overpowered and is detrimental to the health of the game, while if the numbers are undertuned suddenly nobody starts playing this champion because there are other, better picks, and it's for that reason why a champion like ekko remains "broken" whether or not his numbers are overtuned.

annie is very difficult to deal with when she becomes fed, but there's more counterplay than "stay away from her." unlike the champions named above, annie is very susceptible to ganks, and, unless she's 2000 gold ahead of you or has summoners, she almost certainly WILL die and fall behind if you gank her in lane. zhonya's when timed right can negate her primary source of burst, and qss can negate her cc, which will take time for her to recharge. she is, of course, very squishy and easy to burst down quickly, and stacking mr is, as always, an option.

speaking of TF, TF is quite underpowered right now, but his kit is still broken. of course, like i mentioned in my op, that's a completely other topic, and if you're interested i can address it quickly.

thank you very much for you input. have a very Merry Christmas :)

Krystle1 votes

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Brain Errör 4041 votes

I've only ever downvoted 3 posts on this board, and this was not one of them. I don't give out downvotes as I can't say whether an opinion is worthy of a downvote or not, but I do give out multiple upvotes, considering I was one of the 3 people who upvoted the above post^.

Krystle2 votes

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Brain Errör 4042 votes

Ohh, no no. You weren't the one obscuring words. I just have comprehension issues. My apologies, completely my misunderstanding. Thank you for clarifying though, and happy holidays to you as well. ^^

Melledoneus3 votes

Adolf, is the Fourth Reich a success yet?

Happy Freeza Day.

Dengeden3 votes

Just how troll is this post? Arbitrary definitions and special pleading.

AkaliTheOP2 votes

My biggest complaint are with champions with overloaded kits. For example, nidalee and jayce have 7 abilities, whereas most champion have 4, and some poor bastards, like Udyr, have 3 (because you won't run tiger + phoenix). I especially feel that the current meta is very restrictive of junglers, since to be a good jungler, you need to be mobile and have good wave clear. Lee sin, shyvanna, hecarim, vi, etc. It seems that a lot of very interesting champions simply aren't viable, but I get that not everyone can fit in at the same time. Just like in WoW balance, everyone gets a turn. WW, fiddlesticks, aatrox (he's still a champion?) are borderline useless with only a few niche situations. I wish I had a good way to resolve this, but sadly I do not. Does anyone else have any ideas on how to address such issues?

Merry Christmas!

ivan usi virgin3 votes

as league of legos grows older and as rito makes more and more champs, it's becoming more and more difficult to make the champions more diverse and to create new champions that don't feel the same or very similar to the ones that already exist, and that's why champions for the last season or two have had kits which grow more and more complex, and are overloaded because they need to have some sort of unique feel that differentiates them from the older champs.

on that note, i do agree with you, and i think that there's a very simple solution, which is for rito to stop making champions and to focus on reworking the older, subpar champions and balancing the game.

the weeaboo2 votes

Near infinite mobility? Hahahahahhaha there is this thing called CC. Typically that is the counter to mobility. Nearly every champ has some form of CC, im sure you guys can cope.

Freaky Ivern2 votes

but Adolf, you're just a salty retarded noob :)) but Adolf, Yasuo and Camille's mobility are conditionial!!!!1111! and Ekko uses mana!11!!

nice table1 votes

this is the best thread ive ever read on gameplay n balance, i was expecting games to be replaces with gaimz tho.

Boompenguins1 votes

That was the funniest post I have ever seen in a very long time...

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Okay I don't agree with around 50% of the thread but your username forces me to upvote

Maligaro Spike1 votes

if i learned something in this game is that Camille's mobility isn't conditional since the hook range is so big you always can target a wall unless you're literally in the middle of a lane

drakuIa4211 votes

i'll agree that kata, yasuo and lee have a ton of mobility but ekko and camille are nowhere near as mobile as the ones i have mentioned at the start. they only have one dash and a bit of a movespeed boost. nowhere near "infinite".

AkabaneKun1 votes

Mobility is always relevant whether you are ahead or not, it's just that this game doesn't have champs with tons of mobility paying for it with stats, they just have the same power lvl than some champs with less mobility+their mobility.

Mobility=safety=not feeding That's why mobility is one of the most important aspects for pro players.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

From how you use "Infinite Mobility" in your post, anyone who has a dash is considered to be infinitely mobile.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Except Ekko sucks right now. He's no where near broken, nor is Annie broken.

Suspicious Xebra1 votes

Kata is nowhere near broken. Just get some hard cc for her ult and/or item 3157 . Plenty of ways to stop her.

PaladinNO1 votes

With regard to the mobility, here's what I find interesting: I play Lulu. And I did consider my 3x "Greater Quintessence of Movement Speed" to be the best rune investment ever. Sounds pretty much like mobility personified, with 3 MS quints, upgraded boots, some AP and selfcast W...except more and more champions can easily catch up with her now.

So while the matches has been ever shortened down, and even average, passive movement speed is ever increasing, so exactly where are they getting at with all that?

By my calculations, in Season 4, 400 movement speed for any duration of time (before any applied MS buffs) was a lot. But that stat seem to have increased by about 50 every season. You got less than 450 MS passively now (after items, but before any buffs) and you ain't running away from anyone.

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