How to counter swain?

LucrativicΒ·Β·1 votesΒ·1,024 views

I've been playing against Swain who was very fed and had zhonyas. He healed all of his HP in exactly 5 seconds due to his zhonyas and ult, so I'm wondering, "Is there any counterplay to this? If so, can someone tell me?" So, can someone tell me how to counter swain" *i'm playing azir and i'm just a noob with him, at this point i'm willing to accept buying tons of RP just to buy these champions.8

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Radiant Wukong4 votes

summoner 14 summoner 4 item 3165

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

swain has a bad early game , super high mana cost and mana dependent . he scales mid into late game. he is immobile prone to ganks cuz he kinda pushes waves as he farms . his early game farming is typically hard and bad for him, is autos suck for it so he has to use spells and mana to farm .

healing reduction helps vs him as well such as summoner 14 item 3153 item 3123 item 3165 item 3033

UnboundHades1 votes

bork stops healing who knew

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

it dont stop healing but it makes a champ like swain suffer from his typical hp item builds like item 3027 item 3116

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Why people constantly complain about his autoattack, I like it very much and find last hitting with them really easy. What I cant do at all however is last hit with Annie, that autoattack is so delayed that if I start it this year, it will hit the target next year.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

to me its stupid slow... and its kinda weak...

Lucrativic1 votes

When I tried to gank him he just ran around dodging skillshots harder than I dodge games with riven trolls in my team. He was only 1/0 at that point and had killed me when I ignited him.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

ok so you being bad and the other player being good at dodging is a problem with swain as a champ ?

Lucrativic1 votes

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ok so you being bad and the other player being good at dodging is a problem with swain as a champ ?

Didn't matter if he dodged, he still zhonyas and heals for all of his health.

Hotaru is Waifu2 votes

azir is kinda weak agaisnt him the biggest thing i can say to help you is abuse early game when he gets going hes kinda hard to deal with 1 on 1 but early laning abuse his long cooldowns and mana costs as much as possible

ps this is coming from a lvl 7 azir i wish you the best of luck azir is just not in a good place rn

Lucrativic1 votes

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azir is kinda weak agaisnt him the biggest thing i can say to help you is abuse early game when he gets going hes kinda hard to deal with 1 on 1 but early laning abuse his long cooldowns and mana costs as much as possible

ps this is coming from a lvl 7 azir i wish you the best of luck azir is just not in a good place rn

Thanks friend!

Laxfan521 votes

Im trying to learn azir right now. I have mastery 4 with him but im still not that good. What do you build on him?

Lucrativic1 votes

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Im trying to learn azir right now. I have mastery 4 with him but im still not that good. What do you build on him?

Are you asking for what I usually build or what I usually build to counter swain?

Laxfan521 votes

What do you usually build

Lucrativic1 votes

Well, I go for item 3151 , item 3020 , item 3135 , item 3285 and some other items depending on the situation. Also, I've heard of people getting flamed for this build. Why so?

Escanor Kujo1 votes

Okay. For a more in depth explanation, swain is weak to stuns and silences. Much like aurelian sol passive,silences interrupt swains ugly and force it into cool down (2.5 sec I believe) Sience Azir ult does nullify swains Ult damage, you can utilize it to freeze swains ulty as he zhonias. Give it a shot

Escanor Kujo1 votes

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DoktorKaiser1 votes

Step 1 - buy item 3123 item 3165

Step 2 - win

Lucrativic1 votes

Quick replies everyone! Good to know I am not the only one without a life. Also, thanks for all the tips. I'll make sure to stick my staff up his ass next time.

ReySolomon1 votes

Katarina her ult has grievious wounds I've seen so many kats beat swain very easily

Fizz lvl1-lvl6 burts too hard for swain to heal up all of his health back

Quepha1 votes

Pre-6, diver champs can invalidate his long cooldown abilities and shut him down before he comes online.

For teamfights, someone on your team needs to build executioner's calling and you need to be decisive about focusing him over any tanks.

He's also deceptively poor at clearing waves (for a mage) so pushing the wave will leave his team under a lot of pressure.

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