Hey Malicious...

Chaotic Reks·Dec 12, 2015·64 votes·2,867 views

Harvesters of Sorrow (W) can now be cast on allied minions.

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/12/1211-pbe-update.html

23 Comments

Malicious MetalDec 12, 201557 votes

http://i.imgur.com/DGzSZ8h.png

JbelsDec 12, 20152 votes

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http://i.imgur.com/DGzSZ8h.png

I have to wonder though, what would even be the difference at this point as far as morde being able to cast it alone without minion help goes. I can't really see it breaking him. I guess that would just make him pretty much as he was before

KaeblenDec 12, 20151 votes

he'll be able to get the heal without waltzing up and getting pounded first.

UltraboomerDec 13, 20151 votes

this raises an interesting question. since morde doesn't get healed from the circle around an allied champion, instead healing that ally, does the minion get healed?

OyddAWqJ5rDec 13, 20151 votes

It should

RetillinDec 13, 20151 votes

The point it, as Riot Statikk just said the other day here, they want Morde to be duo lane. So they are trying every little thing they can to prevent him from becoming a solo lane champion again.

Malicious FuryDec 13, 20153 votes

:-D

ShadowParkerDec 13, 20151 votes

Oh god its spreading.

Malicious FuryDec 14, 20151 votes

Had this name since S1...

J EevoDec 12, 201522 votes

Can't help but think that all that's happening is that we're getting closer to old Morde (while struggling with the usual stubbornness of Riot regarding reverts)

Now if only the stupid W experience passive would go away in favor of some small buffs I'd be soo happy.

KnalxzDec 12, 201513 votes

I just want the old Morde back but Riot, like you said, is just too stubborn. They really wanted him to be this melee bot instead of just creating a champion to become a melee bot. This way Riot gets their way and Morde fans don't have to pay for it.

I remember hearing about him being tuned and updated visually and with his abilities but his rework was just a kick to the nuts.

Malicious MetalDec 12, 201511 votes

Literally all that's left to do is to beef him up in terms of base stats and he'd be perfect.

It's riot, baby steps are the right way to do it, we don't want Morde to become too damn oppressive.

ModKnightsKemplarDec 13, 20156 votes

That's exactly what's happening. Riot is realizing, bit by bit, that this harebrained idea of forcing him into the bot lane was just that: harebrained.

It's fine for someone besides an adc to go bot... but they need to provide the tools to do that correctly with many champions, not just give one of them a dragon-ghost-god and then strip the rest of his kit bare. When the dragon ghost goes away, I might finally be happy.

BastionKrossDec 13, 20151 votes

I'm pretty certain one of the Rioters on the balance team said that the dragon ghost takes up no power in his kit at all. Since it's an ability that's on a six minute CD and is heavily situational, they don't even consider it worth anything to add it to his kit. They could take it away, but they wouldn't buff him as compensation.

Now, if you want to talk about getting rid of things for compensation buffs, that extra XP passive on his W could go.

ModKnightsKemplarDec 13, 20158 votes

If the dragon ghost is that bad, it's even more stupid for it to exist. It creates a case where the player is encouraged to plan around a meaningless reward. So they should still take it away. I think the main reason I hate it so much is that it's the first case I can think of where Riot actively ruined game balance to "enforce" a meta no one wanted. You can't lane swap with Morde, for instance, because dragon isn't up there. Tying ANY of his power to dragon is absolutely a terrible idea. I don't care if the power is real or not; merely the fact that this mechanic exists is extremely questionable, imo.

And yes, the extra XP passive is also really stupid, and most of the reason that I feel he every became oppressive. And that doesn't even fit thematically.

SpecterVonBarenDec 13, 20152 votes

Or they could make him capable of getting the ghost of all large jungle monsters. Imagine the horror on the enemies face as they see Morde march out of the jungle with Gromp behind him.

Bottom LanerDec 14, 20151 votes

JG Mordekaiser ghost army...Oh God please no

TotalJerkDec 13, 20152 votes

I personally don't mind the Dragon ghost by itself. For me the problem was they put little to no effort into actually balancing the fucking thing.

SlytherinUmbreonDec 13, 20152 votes

It says a lot that Morde was reworked because his old kit was "toxic" but most of the player base seems to want "toxic" old morde more then they do new one.

Urgonnalearn2dayDec 13, 20151 votes

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It says a lot that Morde was reworked because his old kit was "toxic" but most of the player base seems to want "toxic" old morde more then they do new one.

People resist change even kids.

TotalJerkDec 13, 20155 votes

Old Morde had problems, but new Morde is worse.