So now that we have a champ that can go back in time...
Can he go back and rescue the old lore?
Can he go back and rescue the old lore?
Honestly Riot, please bring back the old lore. Ever since Azir came out and changed the lore, it's just been bad. Why would you ever change a characters lore to be LESS detailed than it used to be? What's the point of reducing the quality? The lore that got changed was so good, it gave us a connection to the characters we play, and now they are simple overviews, nothing with any meaning. Please, get us the old lore back, for us and the champions we play. The backstory is important in case you didn't know.
I read the "new" lore and I just 
Because the old Lore was so amazing that it needs saving. Sure, Riot has, is, and seems to be willing to continue to drop the ball with the new lore, but don't pretend that the old lore had anywhere to go but downhill.
It was something though. If you want to get nitty gritty about it, most lore in any fandom is incredibly stupid. Even I have to admit my favorite fandoms can be incredibly stupid some times.
But it had a nice feeling to it. it was something new and different.
Eh. League's old lore was honestly loosely tied together and filled with cliches, continuity errors, and vast gaps of knowledge about the realm, as well as a great many of the champs having little to no impact on anything whatsoever - champs like Syndra and Zed were noted to have done things, but after whatever their lore said they did they didn't really have any kind of further action. Syndra assumedly sat in a castle in the sky and Zed kind of just went poof. I'm far less upset over the old lore being removed as I am upset over how sparse and lousy the new lore is.
Don't get me wrong. Would much rather half the old lore over the lump of crap we have now, but even more I would rather they actually put effort into a real lore setup.
Well, you have to keep in mind this is a game with over 125 different Main Characters. Even if they did their best there would be things that don't make sense or aren't optimal, maybe even for story sake.
It's an interesting case, where Riot's trying to make every character, as you say, a main character now. Before, they tried to tie all of the lores together somehow, to make a large, cohesive world and story in Valoran.
Now, for a while, they try to do one-shot stories-- unless they're tied in like Zed and the Kinkou Order. They try to give enough backstory to get the champion running and possibly fill in more blanks at a later date. (Example: Thresh had absolutely NO clues towards Lucian at all before his release, but ones like Rengar and Kha'zix fill in their stories by both being around. If you changed one's story, you'd have to really change the other as well.)
I love the old lores and all, and honestly detest the 3-sentence lores like with the Shurima update, but Riot's focusing more on the game itself than lore at the moment. If it becomes a priority to flesh out characters that have long-mysterious histories, then they'll work on it... probably.
(Years later and we still aren't confirmed if Hecarim is the Ruined King
yet or not.)
I'm pretty certain that it was confirmed Hecarim betrayed the ruined king, so that kind of means he can't really be the ruined king himself
Does that mean morde is the ruined king?
Perhaps. I don't remember seeing a confirmation on anything though, cause Riot's kinda abandoned half of the lore of the Shadow Isles. (Still no new info on Evelynn like they said they would put out)
Perhaps. I don't remember seeing a confirmation on anything though, cause Riot's
kindaabandonedhalf ofthe loreof the Shadow Isles.(Still no new info onEvelynnanyone like they said they would put out)
I generally hate posting things like this, but I fixed this for you.
Trueeeee, but at least they're syncing in some of the newer champions in with the older ones story-wise.
Based on the dialogue from the alters in TT, Morde and Hecarim are both equals, and seek the same goals by different means. I'm also pretty certain Riot said Morde wasn't the ruined king, but that could all change post retcon.
Long ago, a war was waged between those of valor, those who called themselves the Damacia, and those of power, heroes who were named Noxus, in what was known as the Rune Wars. Everyone in Runeterra knows of the devastation left from the battle. Neither side won, and many perished.
During this, people of the Fejord had their own problems, as the once promising tribe spit into three separate groups. One led by the might of a woman with mighty strength, wielding a mace in one hand and roaring into battle on her mighty boar, she is the sister of another beautiful woman who, by chance, was shown the mystical weapon that she will use to bring together the Frejord to its former glory, but it will be hard as a certain queen has made herself a thrown in the last of the three parts of the Frejord.
A great awakening has happened in Shurima, men of great power, creatures of old, and untold secrets are arising from the ashes. When a certain misguided man betrays his ruler for power, before he can do any damage, he is sealed away by the guardians of the sands. Years later, he is now freed and now, a betrayed emperor must stop him from beyond the grave.
Zaun has done many things but it is has gone too far. Mutating animals, engineering new life, messing with the human DNA is only some of what they have gone to do. It's only a matter of time before...
For a brighter future, and a look away from the past, Piltover was created to benefit those with its benefits to society. If not for the cities heroes, there might be trouble all over.
Once a lush and beautiful land was turned into what is now called the Howling Abyss. It is home to twisted creatures, ghosts, and monsters. Shrouded in mystery, none venture into the Howling Abyss and come back alive.
Those with great power and mastery of the mind find home in Ionia. Training to hone in on their set abilities, each person who comes from Ionia is said to trained hard and wish for peace. It is said that 2 clans are at a dispute with one another due to differences in thought.
A strange, parallel world has opened up to Runeterra, bringing a multitude of monsters of all kinds that terrorize the land. No one knows anything about it except that it is named the Void.
It was with the Rune Wars that each of these countries were tied together. It was only to stop this massacre that powerful leaders founded the Institute of War to subside the brutal battles into something of less damage. Champions from different lands would be able to face off in the League, gaining what they wanted most in the long run. Whether it be power, peace, love, justice, vengeance, or fun, each new Champion brought with them a will to fight. Each with his or her own story, all will find what they are looking for through the great battle dubbed the League of Legends.
You just did more work than Riot's lore team has done in the past 8 months
And that's what the Riot "Lore" Department hates. They don't know how to do this. They can't do this. So they make sure no one can. They had their temper tantrum by removing all the previous lore and replacing it with shit.
You confused the Twisted Treeline with the Holling Abyss.
imo stupid lore > no lore "hey guys let's throw out the old lore and replace it with b.s. events that have no impact on the world because there is no world. Also we still call you summoners which only existed because of the IOW and they still fight on the rift despite the fact we have no reason for them to". Seriously, as a writer this gives me cancer.
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imo stupid lore > no lore "hey guys let's throw out the old lore and replace it with b.s. events that have no impact on the world because there is no world. Also we still call you summoners which only existed because of the IOW and they still fight on the rift despite the fact we have no reason for them to". Seriously, as a writer this gives me cancer.
as a lover of fantasy and an avid reader... the old lore was, honestly, worse than anything I could've dreamed up. It was 100 stories that all shared the same predetermined ending, because it was the only way it could ever end. How sad is that? Thank goodness more writers don't tie themselves down like that.
I'll take a blank slate over... that. Any day of the week. And be happy for the blank slate. At least the blank slate has potential.
Have you read some of the League judgements? Those were actually interesting to say the least. Going into the reasons why the champions want to fight, or why they're forced to fight. Much better than "Nobody knows who Bard is, but he exists" sort of crap. I tend to tread lightly when it comes to comparing old to new, but the old lore wasn't bad at all. Well the season 2-3 lore at least, some of the original champions had some pretty cringeworthy writing. Like Shaco for instance, that lore seems like something I would have written in middle school. Though funny enough Shaco's lore kind of matches many new champions with their dark and mysterious pasts.
I miss the journal of justice, I loved how they at least tried to make the world of LoL alive. Now it just sort of seems like random things happen for no apparent reason and aren't connected at all whatsoever. There's no reason to make Rek'Sai from the void, because there's no reason for her to be fighting. Riot really dug themselves into a deep shitty hole when they said they were destroying the lore of summoners and the league... Like why would Lee Sin do half the things he did if he didn't want to become a summoner? Unfortunately his lore will eventually be something along the lines of: Ancient monks were powerful, Lee Sin got burned in a mysterious fire and didn't die, just lost his sight, the end.
idk where Im going with this mini rant, but I disagree fully that the lore was going downhill before.
I think I have some Lore for Bard, but its just at random so don't get too mad if its not good.
The man tucks the little girl into her bed and is about to leave the room when she asks about Bard and where he came from.
"When did he first show himself, daddy?"
"Before Soraka had left to Runeterra, there was another story of a Celestial being who had left the heavens to protect Runeterra for a short while before returning to the heavens once more. Tale says that he could not speak a word but was found to be loved by all who met the being. His gentle nature brought peace to all and he eventually found himself at home. None know the reason of his coming rather, the orbs our masters spent years of making must had called him forth. Each orb was precious to us and our tribe but others sought to take it and use its power for other purposes. They eventually stole a newly made orb, but it turned from its usual blue to a horrifying violet in an instant. No one knows what happened to it after the thieves threw it away. As for the remaining three, they planned to take them by force. It was the Celestial being who took them away with him to the heavens before they could be used for bad."
"But, he's here again. Why?"
"I don't know, sweetie. But if I had to say, its to finish what he could not finish all those years ago."
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Better yet, can he go back and rescue Karma?
But... 
Ekko has to be a younger Zilean or related to him.
pls tell me that u see the skin color right not tom be racist okay but u do see right unless zilean started to stay saty inside and got pale ok but seriously not being racist or tryuing to seem racist at all
Well, I was born extremely pale, and now I'm tanned. My mom was born extremely dark, but ever since she got a job working indoors, she went from dark to tan to pale.
That, and if we looked at Michael Jackson... (This one is not meant to be taken seriously either)
Also, my post wasn't serious. I was just making a jab at time.
Actually, Zilean is not Ekko due to Zilean also having trouble going to the future and going back in time. Ekko would just have Zilean's intellect and know how to beat the enemy with a sword in an instant. Also, I think we should be discussing who his friend is, to be honest. For all we know, his friend could be
or
or
or maybe did die somehow.
Zilean's mind lives in a different timeplace thingy right? Like his physical movements in time aren't in sync of the way Zilean perceives time.
If you look at the picture of Ekko as a kid in the background of his lab (closing scene of the video) you see a very pale child (which is young Ekko). It could be anything and it's going to be interesting to see what Ekko's finished product is.
I don't know that that's young ekko - I almost suspect that's someone who young ekko loved. the entire mural tells a story of him working and learning and perfecting his art until he could make that large picture - and that's why at the very end he resets again to save the mural.
the glasses being broken and off to the side in the beginning of the videa kinda says that too - if they were his, he likely would have repaired or replaced them - not kept them as a memento.
Back then Riot didn't remove champions from the game, but now Trundle got replaced.
So i take it this champion can basically immediately save his team when they throw a game taking the game back 30 seconds in time?
WE STILL HAVE TO KNOW JAX'S LORE
COME ON RIOT
he just walked right on through the judgement... no questions asked... WHY?
What is this old lore you speak of?
JoJ for example?
That's going to take a lot more than seconds & it seems like he only work with seconds.
Nah, it wouldn't take that long to delete their post about deleting the lore.
The old lore was unbelievably badly written. It was like they just had a couple of dudes writing fanfiction about LoL instead of anything like a cohesive world being built. Character's actions were devoid of consequences, and the league judgments were astonishingly cringe-worthy. I think the only justifiable reason for people being mad is lack of communication on Riot's part with regards to where they're taking things.
In their new approach, I've seen no evidence of cohesive world-building or any kind of consequences from characters' actions. The League Judgments were far beyond anything we've gotten since when it comes to character motivation and insight.
So is seconds really gonna be a new champ or are we just assuming ? I mean we already have
who pretty much turns back time with his ult. why would there be another "time wizard"? Cause c'mon that will be too op, think bout it turn back time while
uses ult to save adc thereby giving
his ult again or do the same with a
or
or anyone else with an ult that's too op as it is.
So is seconds really gonna be a new champ or are we just assuming ? I mean we already have
who pretty much turns back time with his ult. why would there be another "time wizard"? Cause c'mon that will be too op, think bout it turn back time while
uses ult to save adc thereby giving
his ult again or do the same with a
or
or anyone else with an ult that's too op as it is.
and what about that dha ma idea I had heard and read a little bit about, I don't see him in yet
So is seconds really gonna be a new champ or are we just assuming ? I mean we already have
who pretty much turns back time with his ult. why would there be another "time wizard"? Cause c'mon that will be too op, think bout it turn back time while
uses ult to save adc thereby giving
his ult again or do the same with a
or
or anyone else with an ult that's too op as it is.
Zilian lore should be getting a rework. His lore basically says he is invincible and does exist but doesn't. He is really old so not much thought was put into him. Plus They're totally different. Zilian can go back in time or forward without even trying, but this guy has to. Zilian is easily the strongest champ in league lore wise. Rip Nasus/Xerath.
I hate how Zilean's main damage is a ticking bomb though, it's such a childish way to represent time. OTher abilities could have been conjured to replace his main damage ability.
So is this ekko guy like the offspring of Lucian and zillian?
Put Ezreal somewhere in there.
inb4 ekko is blood related to every single champion that has and will come out
I really liked the old lore, and yes, it had it's problems and overlaps but still, it was nice. However, I believe the new lore is going to tie in well once they get a decent writer in there. Pssssttt, I can do it! PM me, Riot, gimme a theme and I'll run with it.
yeah 
get a life lore nerd
get a life, guy-who-insults-people-on-the-internet
already tried, then rito "reworked" him