What is wrong with "dodging"

Leti the Yeti··8 votes·1,847 views

Now I notice when you leave games in champ select, you get punished somehow What is wrong with it? Sometimes you can tell right away you are being matched with toxics, having an option to just leave them would be great Sure people might leave if they dont get the role they want but I think thats fine too People kinda just shuffle around more often and eventually they get roles they want, ditching assholes and everyones happy... just takes abit longer to get there

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EndlessSorcerer17 votes

"Hmm, that enemy just counterpicked me". Dodge. "They have a better teamcomp" Dodge. "First pick didn't ban the champions I wanted". Dodge. "Someone just picked the champion I wanted to play". Dodge.

It would most likely be abused and it would make champ select very frustrating. Especially when they dodge at the last minute, wasting your time.

Cerbearus6 votes

Imagine how long it would take to get into a game if dodging had 0 repercussions. You sit in draft pick for 5 minutes and right at the last second someone leaves because they don't like the matchup. Then the next time someone dodges halfway through because they didn't like the role they got. Then the process repeats itself and you sit in queue for 2 hours to play a 30 minute game.

y7g6uge2yF5 votes

Now I notice when you leave games in champ select, you get punished somehow What is wrong with it? Sometimes you can tell right away you are being matched with toxics, having an option to just leave them would be great Sure people might leave if they dont get the role they want but I think thats fine too People kinda just shuffle around more often and eventually they get roles they want, ditching assholes and everyones happy... just takes abit longer to get there

Well, I don't know since how long you playing LoL. But I remember the old time when they're was no punishment for queue dodging. It could take 3-10 minutes to be able to start a game. That mean an average of 3 or 4 queue dodge at the last second. Really annoying. Just because some people wanted to play a specific position and/or champion.

Unidad5 votes

Because you'll never get into a match. It would take 10 mins just to get a lobby of 10 people in SILVER who wouldn't dodge; now imagine high diamond - challenger: You'd be looking for a match for hours.

TeemoHunter13374 votes

how about this

first dodge - 0 lp loss and 3 minute wait.

second dodge - 1 lp loss and 5 minute wait

third dodge - 3 lp loss and 10 minute wait

4th dodge - 3 lp loss and 20 minute wait

5th dodge - 10 lp loss and 50 minute wait

6th dodge - 10 lp loss and banned from rank for 24 hours.

and all these dodges are within 48hours before dodge count resets.

good or not?

pros u can dodge 2 times and not have to wait (luckily ull get ur perfect match in 3rd queue)

3rd and 4th dodge is same as it is now.

5th and 6th are harsh for people who are abusing it.

it makes the people who are honest have 2 free dodges basically ( 1 lp loss in 2 dodges)

Sailor Mint4 votes

LP losses don't do anything.

Your MMR doesn't get hit so you end up gaining it all back over time.

AbodyHUN6662 votes

Actually it's 20 min for the 2nd dodge. Your LP losses are a bit too low. Most people get around 20 pl per match so it's not something to hold us back.

TeemoHunter13371 votes

Actually it's 20 min for the 2nd dodge. Your LP losses are a bit too low. Most people get around 20 pl per match so it's not something to hold us back.

well i was offering a solution to help the honest people who want to dodge without losing lp. lets say the whole team first 4 picks are getting along, and last pick said he will troll and picked a really bad champ for his role and was basically toxic before match even started. whos to say the 4 guys deserve to lose?

AbodyHUN6661 votes

yeah, but if the dodge penalties are weak it is abused and wastes people's time. I dodge games sometimes, but most of the time I can live with my team.

Llanite4 votes

You just waste 9 people's time, they have the right to refuse to play with you for any foreseeable future.

Legendari3 votes

If there was no penalty for dodging, it would be pretty tough to even get a match to start.... one of the ten people would find some reason to dodge. I wish they'd lessen the penalty for consecutive dodges, though. Sometimes you just get multiple troll lobbies in a row and once you use up your -3 LP dodge, you are pretty much stuck with whatever you get after that.

Leti the Yeti3 votes

Hmm, i didnt think it would be that bad most of the times me and other players have no reason to dodge... just occasionally something happens during champ select maybe free dodges in ranked games may be a problem

but what bout in them normal games

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

It usually isn't that bad. But if there were no penalties, you can bet that some people would abuse it for the smallest advantage. I meant, a lot of people went to the trouble of making extra accounts specifically for ARAM.

XxXGwanXxX1 votes

If something in LoL can be abused. It will be abused so much we won't be able to play the game. A lot of people are assholes in the LoL community.

Brainysmurfs3 votes

How about removing penalties for dodging in blind pick?

Leti the Yeti1 votes

this I can support I can see the horrors of free dodges in ranked games now i guess

Junkο1 votes

"Omg somebody instalocked my role" dodge "Omg somebody picked my champ" dodge "Omg somebody picked a champ i think is weak" dodge

Quepha2 votes

dodging basically means you lost in champ select due to counterpicks, bad team comp, or a team that obviously will not work together. the punishment should be equivalent to a loss. although maybe it should be worth 5 losses since you were the only one to dodge and nothing happened to the rest of your team.

Sire Hippington2 votes

I think a Que dodge vote like surrender could help to avoid abusecases in which people leave cause their main was banned or they don't get the position they want.

However, i'm guess i would always vote for yes cause if some has such low moral that he wants to leave Que, it's probably better to let him do so rather than performing bad in the game cause of lacking moral.

but still, there are manny situation in which i'd like to dodge ranked, like when i see teemo top, nida mid and sona as support with yi jungle, exactly 1 hard cc, zero tankiness and not even great pke/siege within 4 picks....u know the game's already lost with such a setup

FrostyNon1 votes

I think the main reason you get punished for dodging is that it isn't fair to all of the other players in the match. Why would 9 players have to go through another team champ select just because 1 is a wuss. Its a time thing. It takes long enough to get into a match but it would just take longer if they allowed dodging any more.

FantasySniper1 votes

I would quite honestly prefer 10-20 minutes of sitting there looking for a good matchup over the 30+ minutes of hell that a bad matchup puts you in.

Angry Monster2 votes

go do team builder

Spitemaster1 votes

There was no penalty for dodging draft Dominion for a while. Killed the queue. Completely.

Theorchero1 votes

You must never of played during the brief time they got rid of the dodge penalty.

Was a pain in the fucking ass to get a game going. You'd go through at least 4-5 whole lobbies.

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