Talons nerf

The Tilted King··1 votes·424 views

Favorite assassin in the game. now while I understand why hes not a top pick since he has no real disengage (cause you often engage with ulti for max damage) I also see him as one of the more balanced champs in the game. But its a hard life being an AD mid laner in an AP's world. And Im sure this has been discussed before but I wanted to make a post about it. why the hell was silence removed? why is his slow from E .25 seconds? thats so short I didnt even know he HAD a slow. youll never see it because its only worth is to proc his passive (provided that you can even get the most outta it by AA and Q in .25 of a second...) the only great thing about him is how short his ults CD is. I mean, you can spam it really. And it takes people by surprise on how soon you already have it. AT FIRST. Now, this adds on to the topic I been seeing a lot lately on how a majority of champs in LoL are worthless and are never played. Talon is one of those champs. Despite the fact that hes a fun to play champ, you cant quite get over the fact that against other assassins or against any other mid lane champ. Hes probably gonna lose lane unless your opponent is just bad. but yknow, if they gave him back his silence maybe hed viable again. or hey, maybe decrease the mana cost on rake, have e give a damage boost or make his passive do a bigger percent.

just makes me sad that another champion ive taken a liking to is just outright not playable in anything remotely competitive.

9 Comments

UdoIkOSc4u2 votes

before the silence removal on talon he was played because his burst had no counterplay he saw a lot of play just because the enemy couldn't answer but riot hate talon and for fix it they remove the silence(all talon kit was built around his silence)

The Tilted King1 votes

if his kit is based around his silence then why would they think its a good idea to remove it? the silence wasnt even that long, and really it was his only disruptive attack and let him do a safe engage. he could still be retaliated against, but at least he could get some damage in first. where as we have champs like Ahri who charm you for a few seconds while hitting you with 5 attacks (not including autos or ulti) and charm isnt just a simple cc, its a full on supression really. combines the bs of a silence blind and slow in one neat little ability leaving you ripe to get picked off by ahri or her team. thats just an example too... meanwhile talon, having to deal with a targeted gap closer that is as reliable as an escape as Fiora Lunge and also his main engagement tool doesnt really do crap for him since the silence is gone. ever try to engage a Malzahar as talon? without his silence he can burst you down before you even get your Q off.

FHMarshy2 votes

i'd think if he got his silence back he'd be on the next nerf train :(

LOL Spammer2 votes

Silence was removed because unless you were terrible at talon there was no way to win lane as an ap laner. Since he is a burst champion he would just silence you even for .25 seconds and kill you in that time.

The Tilted King1 votes

but isnt that silence the key difference between him being viable and him being trash? surely thats the main reason why it was removed in the first place and why people generally refer to him as dead.

LOL Spammer1 votes

At the current moment the only way to win lane with talon is to get a really good snowball early. Before the nerf he could win in lane even if the other mid laner got the first 3 kills.

ccseancc1432 votes

With the removal of his silence the bad Talon players were divided from the good ones. I main Talon and I carry in ranked all the times. Have you ever thought maybe its not the champ and its that you are bad at Talon? The .25 slow is good for setting up ganks and especially when you chain it with your rake. Talon is fine if anything he deserves a new passive.

The Tilted King1 votes

I can, on occasion, carry with talon (in normals) then again, im unranked and been playing since....maybe november? so theres quite the gap in skill level for sure. practice makes perfect as they say anyway. he still is by far my favorite champion atm and you can only go up after all. but still, i do think the way the state of the game is now he probably should get his silence back so he can have a fairer matchup against all the ap mids there are now.

forist1 votes

People will say what they will. Truth is riot did not want him played in competitive, so they took what he had over other assassins the 1 second silence. Then they gave him the shittiest compensation cc in the game. The reason for this is simple, none of the devs or riot employees like or even play him, so they don't care if he's nonviable.

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