Do people not realize how broken reworked Veigar is?
You will soon enough.
Way too much free AP with a stun that's far too spamable.
You will soon enough.
Way too much free AP with a stun that's far too spamable.
Shhh, people want freeELO before they see it in the proscene and start copying!
Add to it that Annie Bot and Scarra have both openly said on stream Veigar is overpowered. But what do they know?
To high level streamers, everything is either Trash or Overpowered. Doesn't say much when one of them says one or the other.
As a support in a duo bot lane, Veigar racks up 2 AP for each Q, 2 AP for each W, 2 AP for each E, due to the fact that most likely you will be hitting both the enemy ADC and Support with these spells. So basically for the cost of mana of each spell, you are "buying" 2 permanent AP with each spell you land. Jungler comes to gank, sweet, + 3 AP off one Event Horizon. Build full Magic Pen and Tank, let your passive stack your AP. Balanced.
If Tank Ekko and Fizz are toxic because they can still out put tons of dmg while still being tanky, then what is Veigar?
i want the enemy bot you face, if they stack together and won't dodge any spells he is op as fuck yeah
Yeah those are admitedly best circumstances and realistically don't translate into those kind of results, but
If Tank Ekko and Fizz are toxic because they can still out put tons of dmg while still being tanky, then what is Veigar?
Jr?
A tanky option has always been available to Veigar given he farmed enough. His cage has worked the same for many patches now, it's just 10 mana cheaper now (the horror!).
The change that could put Tank Veigar over the top is the change to his ultimate, not his passive.
been saying it since 6.9, brand and veigar are the ones you need to be banning not malz. Nobody listens
been saying it since 6.9, brand and veigar are the ones you need to be banning not malz. Nobody listens
Veigar would be a much more banned champion if there was more popular. But I've been banning him lately.
Its not that broken you build one mr item and he cant do much honestly i play lot of veigar too.
Funny then, how I haven't hit 1k ap with new veigar yet, but I used to do it almost every game pre Mage update and pre compensation
Funny then, how I haven't hit 1k ap with new veigar yet, but I used to do it almost every game pre Mage update and pre compensation
Have you played him as support yet?
No, but that's mainly because there is already a dedicated support player in the group I mainly play with
Considering that they made it easier for him to get AP I don't see how that's possible.
The easiest fix possible:
Make the "safe area" larger and increase delay on stun.
I've played Veigar a good bit since his reworked and he feels similar except he can't legit one shot people anymore unless they're already injured. In most of my games with him I got to 1-1.2k AP late game no problem. The only real issue with him is he feels almost like an assassin. If I play Brand, Cass, Malz, etc I feel like a mage and wreck teams when they don't focus me. If I play Veigar I really just take out one target at a time like an assassin would. If his ult is down anyone with any MR can survive his non-ult combo even when you have 1.2k AP and a Void Staff.
Is he strong? Yes, but he's got a bit of a unique specialty - like a hybrid between teamfight mage and AP assassin, kind of like Syndra I guess (though I would say atm Veigar is stronger than Syndra). He also has a very vulnerable early game, which helps somewhat compensate for his late game burst.
I think you guys are also neglecting the fact that his stun is ridiculously easy to dodge.
I think you guys are also neglecting the fact that his stun is ridiculously easy to dodge.
It's not even the stun, it's the spell's raw power and presence. Even if you dodge the stun part standing in the center of that spell is horrible, especially in team fights. You're forced to blow flash or take a beating from Veigar (and his teammates).
yup he awesome, just go tank ap items and watch your enemy cry about the dmg you do.
Or have two AP items and have 600 AP.....not even exaggerating, it's that stupid.
Or have two AP items and have 600 AP.....not even exaggerating, it's that stupid.
Or have 3 tank ap items and have 1000+ ap. Yes it's that stupid.
Or just go full tank and have 5000 AP if you kill enough minions.