Surrendering

bleufromage··3 votes·1,206 views

What is up with people surrendering in ranked games. What purpose does it serve. Why do all these new casual players play ranked if they just want to forget the game they are in so they can get into anther one. Play like you mean it in ranked or dont play. I cant tell you how many games ive seen impossible comebacks even in 4v5s. I cant stand the new community and the DQ that allows them to thrive.

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MonkeyMadness5 votes

Not a casual player here, and I hate surrendering ranked games, but there's a point at which you need to just move on...not doing so WILL cause tilts.

Zone of Endless5 votes

because sometimes a game is unwinnable and people would rather not waste their time.

Nøble2 votes

Here is the logic I use, if the game is truely unwinnable then it will be over before the next surrender vote is even possible in which case three minutes isn't that long to wait, and if it's not over by that point it means the game is still win able. I can guarantee you that never, and I mean legit NEVER can you say that you will lose the game with 100% certainty if it will take more than 3 minutes for it to happen.

Leopards Ghost2 votes

you're hurting their KDA by forcing them to continue playing a ranked game you shouldn't join because you & the rest of your "teammates" can't hold a lane & need "ganks" from minute3 then lose by 20 kills.

tl;dr you aren't fun to play with.

bleufromage2 votes

Dude you don't even know me

Leopards Ghost2 votes

you asked. those are the circumstances which elicit a forfeit from me.

bleufromage1 votes

I didn't ask I "why do people not want to play with me?" So your response makes no sense. I can hold a lane and I never get ganks and I don't ask for them (heavens know my teammates need them more). SO like I said you don't know me whatsoever.

Leopards Ghost1 votes

if it wasnt you then it was someone else. people dont forfeit winning games unless they're trolling. or if the team makes a stupid play and gets aced. i'll flag an ff then.

bleufromage1 votes

So you only play games where you are winning. What's the point. Where's the challenge? I've seen plenty of games were the whole team has fed and by 25 it's a complete 180 and pull out a win. My point is people are so easily defeated. This weakminded mentality ruins the game for some of us.

Leopards Ghost1 votes

if you can't read i can't help you.

bleufromage1 votes

"People don't forfeit winning games" those are your words. So you are saying the only time you forfeit is when your behind. If you don't know your own words your saying then that is just sad.

Odd Gnome2 votes

I don't agree at all with surrendering in ranked and I never do myself because I think there's always a way to come back. But I agree what others are saying. There are some games that are just a waste of time due to a feeder or afker.

bleufromage1 votes

I m not trying to say there is never a reason to surrender and I'm glad we have the option. I just feel like so many people mentally defeat themselves becuse of small things and are overrated to jump into a new ranked game. They are casual players who didn't put thier heart into one match so they want to make up for it by jumping right into another.

Dankstin2 votes

I don't surrender in ranked games. I don't wait 10 mins to queue for a ranked game just to give up at the 20 min mark because well, "Teemo is feeding" or "They have 6 kills ahead of us an 2 towers."

If you surrender, you can't learn how to come back from a losing game. The more often you surrender, the less you're learning about the game in general. If you lose, don't take it as "lost to op champs smurfs feeders afk baddies" etc. Try to understand why you die, look at the map. What's warded? Do you have a pink ward on the map? Are you helping secure objectives such as red and blue buff for your team, or are you wandering aimlessly in a fit of rage auto attacking Wolves while the enemy is doing Dragon?

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

because its not always about the lp. it is a game formost and if a team is going "this feels fucking horrible" then they are allowed to decide that playing is simply not worth the lp.

bleufromage1 votes

If your in that mindset don't play ranked

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

then whats your mind set? because mine works alot better then yours and a 2 min search would shoe that im plat 2 which is top 3% of players and your in bronze 1... yes some games i will surrender but i also go into ranked to learn which you clearly dont with your winrate

bleufromage1 votes

Your plat becuse you have more mechanical skill and map awareness. That has nothing to do whatsoever with willingness to surrender. So go shove your rank where it belongs... not in this thread.

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

arr someones annoyed because they philology doesn't work :3 does the kid want a cup of hot chocolate to calm down? :3 [slayer-jinx-wink] also believe me it is nither of those things i play on 8 fps and dont even know how big my minimap is...

bleufromage1 votes

Not sure how you got that from what I said but w/e.

bleufromage1 votes

I said you are plat because you have skill and are aware of the game. You say it's becuse you surrender. I'm not sure who exactly is without logic here.

SonaTitsAndAss1 votes

my logic is surrendering doesnt hold you back. yours is it does.

bleufromage1 votes

I never even said one thing about being held back or rank, you just felt the need to brag and threw it out there that you have a better rank. And insinuating that an opinion on surrendering has any correlation to rank is absurd.

RIP Resonance1 votes

I surrender ranked games on many occasions. It's better to make a 20 minute game, a 20 minute game as opposed to making a 20 minute game a 50 minute game because the enemy wants to show off/improve their KDA.

bleufromage1 votes

if you can hold on in a game fore 30 min there is no reason you cant come back unless there is a huge skill disparity.Thats exactly why i think its beneficial to stay in a game so you can learn how to play correctly from behind. The fact is people give up by 20 min and have no idea how to stop the bleeding because they dont even have a clue.

RIP Resonance1 votes

There's a difference between being behind and wasting time. Being behind is "Oh, they're up by like 5k gold, but we can still win if we play it right!" and "Oh, every lane lost and our junglers been killed multiple times in his own jungle. It's unlikely we can still win this as their teamcomp outscales ours. We should move on."

bleufromage1 votes

It's funny that u use gold disparity as a measure for staying in the game but you use feeding as a reason to quit a game. It's highly likely that that 5k gold deficit could be from every lane losing and the jungle dying. If you play right in either situation you can come back.

RIP Resonance1 votes

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you can come back.

"can" being the operative word. There's sometimes where the game is simply too hard, such as when the enemy team has an item completed on every lane. Personally, I don't like waiting 50 minutes to lose a game, but if you want to do that and tilt, to each their own. Press the no surrender button, and fight a lost cause.

RookPusher1 votes

As I think about it, any team that came to win isn't going to necessitate a surrender because they should be ending it pretty quickly. If they aren't ending it quickly, I'm assuming it's for one of two reasons:

  1. They aren't in a position to, so why surrender at all?

  2. They are in a position to end it and they're arrogant. In this situation, if you can get a team on the track of "play defense; level up" then you should punish them.

Only surrender if position two is a team full of whiny children who gave up after they didn't get first blood.

Nøble1 votes

I would say the only valid time to surrender would be if you have a troll or an afk. Other then that you are doing an injustice you yourself and your entire team by surrendering. There is nothing that tilts me more in league then when I can SEE the enemy team beginning to throw, and then all our chances of winning are dashed simply because my team is butthurt that they died a few times. Grow a pair and play it out.

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