As a Morde Main I do not approve.
At max (4) stacks, Ionian Fervor also grants [20/30/40% at 1/7/13] Attack speed and deals 300% damage to shields.
#triggered
At max (4) stacks, Ionian Fervor also grants [20/30/40% at 1/7/13] Attack speed and deals 300% damage to shields.
#triggered
Check out her stats. 340 MS
200 Attack range.
( Anything above 150 melee range is Only designed for Juggernauts bear in mind)
Mordes going to get kited by a melee range champion. Riots so full of it
Yea... I don't understand how they pull these values out of thin air. She looks like she has pretty decent ratios to be a hybrid champ too. Which opens up alot of options for builds...
that %10 AP ratio on the damage reduction means rageblade alone bumps it to 72% reduction. Add in the +1 AP of the W's damage and the +.9 AP on the E, not even counting the ult, and you've got a champion where building hybrid is too good to pass up.
Rageblade's getting AP removed from it.
Nope, it gets changed but the ap isn't removed.
Nah the latest change on PBE has AP back on the item. The new effect is that each stack grants +4% AD and AP.
That version is also the one in the patch notes released yesterday.
Oh new patch? Forgot it was Tuesday. College life man.
It's not about Mordekaiser. Current league has so much shield creep that it's an actual issue. Mordekaiser in the other hand needs a rework and there's like 0 reason to be upset. Your main or not.
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Morde can suffer for the overall game health of League. It's kinda what he's been doing for 3 years.
( Anything above 150 melee range is Only designed for Juggernauts bear in mind)
that's balantly false
is yasuo a juggernaut? is xin zhao a juggernaut? is fizz a juggernaut?
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that's balantly false
is yasuo a juggernaut? is xin zhao a juggernaut? is fizz a juggernaut?
I phrased that poorly. Juggernauts were given greater than average melee range because they didn't work well with attack speed and lacked mobility.
ranged champs got power creeped so why cant melee?
I bet they didn't even THINK or remember about Mordekaiser's shield lmao besides this is NOT how you fight the shield problem
riotgames at it once again
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besides this is NOT how you fight the shield problem
"Pick this champion to counter shields"
Remember when a large chunk of champions all had grievous wounds on their champions?
That is how I see this turning out. Having something like bonus damage to shields is pretty hidden power.
For some reason on the pbe she also has 200 attack range... I thought they normalized all melee champs to 175...
Just juggernauts
Remember when a large chunk of champions all had grievous wounds on their champions?
Uh, you mean all TWO of them? Katarina and Varus? That's a "large chunk" of champions?
Jesus Christ, it's like the Boards aren't even trying to be reasonable or rational anymore. They just make stuff up and then other people buy into it.
A couple of weeks ago, "Everyone has a shield, shields are too strong"
Riot: "Okay, we've got an idea"
The circlejerking on these Boards is more out of hand than usual.
Giggles said "Had", which is past tense. Miss Fortune, Tristana, I think A few others had it at one point.
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Uh, you mean all TWO of them? Katarina and Varus? That's a "large chunk" of champions?
Jesus Christ, it's like the Boards aren't even trying to be reasonable or rational anymore. They just make stuff up and then other people buy into it.
A couple of weeks ago, "Everyone has a shield, shields are too strong"
Riot: "Okay, we've got an idea"
Boards: "WTF?!?! Why would you make a champion that does extra damage to shields?!"
The circlejerking on these Boards is more out of hand than usual.
Your ignorance is showing.
Riot deliberately removed GW from a vast majority of champs bavk when they were phasing it out of the game.
besides this is NOT how you fight the shield problem
how do you fight it
Mordekaiser is an after-thought at this point. Can't say I blame them either, they've been having a real hard time trying to figure out what to do with him.
They've pretty much just been letting him exist until they figure what to do.
He needs his re-rework already.
Mordo doesn't need a rework, he needs to be buffed in ways that let him top or maybe even jg more efficiently. his kit in my opinion is great, and he is in no way op, nor underpowered. Riot wants the fantasy of melee bot lane being able to contest to marksman poke but that wont ever happen. they need to accept that it wont happen until a major meta shift, and put mordo where he belongs.
Wow, they decided to gave such great ability to someone like Irelia instead of an Assassin, that are struggling precisaly because of Shields power atm
Irelia is a diver though is she not? Or her other endgame fantasy is just splitpusher/duelist.
Technically if she is diving the backline, that anti shield thing probably helps out a lot.
inb4 assassin tank class is created.
but a
tank
assassin
sounds horribly imbalanced and Riot would never be dumb enough to let that happen. Right?
but a
tank
assassin
sounds
horribly
imbalanced and Riot would never be dumb enough to let that happen. Right?
FTFY
She's not gonna be diving the backline in the laning phase. She's gonna be kiting the melees with her 200 aa range lmao
So do Assassins. If they reworked Duskblade into something that made you ignore shields for x seconds when you came out of no where without the enemy having vision on you would be amazing, because the Assassin played perfectly there and was able to reach the backline fast, wich rewards him. This is an example. I still don't like the idea of the one having such useful ability be someone that isn't an Assassin.
Peel supports SHOULD counter Assassins, but at this point they're too strong. Assassins rework also delayed their damage wich means supports now have more time to react to their burst wich defeats the purpose of the Assassins (Not going to defend cases like Rengar or Kha'Zix or Shaco, invisibility overall with the exception of Talon's R is so dumb on those champions).
Would you rather have such a thing on one assassin only and thus you can ONLY pick that assassin? It's a far better idea to put such an effect on an item active that any assassin could build so they'd have an option to deal with shields but it would also have a cd so it wouldn't completely invalidate a support.
That's literally what I said. It would be better if Duskblade had it for example.
It reminds me of how poppy's anti-dash feature was an attempt to deal with the hyper mobility assassin meta. It didn't change anything. Likewise, Irelia is not going to change anything about the reported predominance of shielding.
looks like irelia will be the nail in the coffin for the remaining morde mains as the extreme hard counter.
Or, you know. Just play the fucker mid where he can actually compete.
yeah compete against the Xerath, Veigar or other poke/burst that will make his life a missery
He manages to shrug off poke rather easily. The strength of Morde mid against mages is him being able to force them under tower, already from level 1, and build up enough shield to make any form of retaliation futile.
Putting him mid is strategically better for your teamcomp too since Morde is more of a carry pick and likes having fighters/tanks enable him. Plus he has a lot more favorable matchups mid than top.
The only champion he has no chance of actually beating is Anivia.
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The only champion he has no chance of actually beating is Anivia.
and laugh
Back then when i played him mid lane felt rather difficult, especially cos i could get ganked from like 4 sides instead of one/two
looks like irelia will be the nail in the coffin for the remaining morde mains as the extreme hard counter.
Morde mains are Fighter mains. Fighters Fight it doesn't mention anyone about winning
Eh, I'd say we embody the best and the worst about both Fighter AND Mage mains.
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Eh, I'd say we embody the best and the worst about both Fighter AND Mage mains.
It's a more unique playstyle that isn't rewarded by riot at all
We get to meme about Morde's sad state though!
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We get to meme about Morde's sad state though!
Meme is love meme is unlife
300% shield.. KK Next time make a champ that bypass Invulnerability. I hope they will buff mordekaiser mobility and Add some slow on his E for match with this matchup...
I personally really like Irelia's rework overall, but that part is pretty much the only component to her reworked kit that I dislike. Anti-shield damage is a gimmick that has no historical or thematic relevance to Irelia, and one that is going to make the balancing of shields and shield champions more difficult overall as long as it exists. It really just feels like a mechanic that was up in the air for some time, that Riot decided to stick on their next champion kit just because.
I mean, the boards have been asking for ages for an item that targets shields specifically. Naturally Riot put it in a champion ability.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
"don't like shields? play irel. bam problem solved"
"I play support"
"PLAY IRELIA"
inb4 morde shield doesn't count as a shield cause bugs