As a Morde Main I do not approve.

GigglesO··39 votes·2,412 views

At max (4) stacks, Ionian Fervor also grants [20/30/40% at 1/7/13] Attack speed and deals 300% damage to shields.

#triggered

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Mordepool29 votes

Check out her stats. 340 MS
200 Attack range. ( Anything above 150 melee range is Only designed for Juggernauts bear in mind)

Mordes going to get kited by a melee range champion. Riots so full of it

GigglesO3 votes

Yea... I don't understand how they pull these values out of thin air. She looks like she has pretty decent ratios to be a hybrid champ too. Which opens up alot of options for builds...

Auz the Ripper6 votes

that %10 AP ratio on the damage reduction means rageblade alone bumps it to 72% reduction. Add in the +1 AP of the W's damage and the +.9 AP on the E, not even counting the ult, and you've got a champion where building hybrid is too good to pass up.

An Enemy Sutando2 votes

Rageblade's getting AP removed from it.

HeimerLmao2 votes

Nope, it gets changed but the ap isn't removed.

Z3Sleeper3 votes

Nah the latest change on PBE has AP back on the item. The new effect is that each stack grants +4% AD and AP.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

That version is also the one in the patch notes released yesterday.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Oh new patch? Forgot it was Tuesday. College life man.

O Fallen Scholar2 votes

It's not about Mordekaiser. Current league has so much shield creep that it's an actual issue. Mordekaiser in the other hand needs a rework and there's like 0 reason to be upset. Your main or not.

Mordepool2 votes

[{quoted}](name=just get a house,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-03-21T18:25:48.205+0000)

Morde can suffer for the overall game health of League. It's kinda what he's been doing for 3 years.

Ahristocats7 votes

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( Anything above 150 melee range is Only designed for Juggernauts bear in mind)

that's balantly false

is yasuo a juggernaut? is xin zhao a juggernaut? is fizz a juggernaut?

Mordepool3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-03-21T18:29:47.990+0000)

that's balantly false

is yasuo a juggernaut? is xin zhao a juggernaut? is fizz a juggernaut?

I phrased that poorly. Juggernauts were given greater than average melee range because they didn't work well with attack speed and lacked mobility.

Sleepcoma1 votes

ranged champs got power creeped so why cant melee?

Cowgirl Ed22 votes

I bet they didn't even THINK or remember about Mordekaiser's shield lmao besides this is NOT how you fight the shield problem

riotgames at it once again

GigglesO10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kiss Kiss Kiss,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-21T03:12:23.158+0000)

besides this is NOT how you fight the shield problem

"Pick this champion to counter shields"

Remember when a large chunk of champions all had grievous wounds on their champions?

That is how I see this turning out. Having something like bonus damage to shields is pretty hidden power.

For some reason on the pbe she also has 200 attack range... I thought they normalized all melee champs to 175...

Spoofghoul1 votes

Just juggernauts

Scary Door7 votes

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Remember when a large chunk of champions all had grievous wounds on their champions?

Uh, you mean all TWO of them? Katarina and Varus? That's a "large chunk" of champions?

Jesus Christ, it's like the Boards aren't even trying to be reasonable or rational anymore. They just make stuff up and then other people buy into it.

A couple of weeks ago, "Everyone has a shield, shields are too strong"

Riot: "Okay, we've got an idea"

Boards: "WTF?!?! Why would you make a champion that does extra damage to shields?!"

The circlejerking on these Boards is more out of hand than usual.

Thuban16 votes

Giggles said "Had", which is past tense. Miss Fortune, Tristana, I think A few others had it at one point.

SooFr0sty12 votes

Fizz

GigglesO2 votes

MF

ChaddyFantome8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-03-21T09:59:02.684+0000)

Uh, you mean all TWO of them? Katarina and Varus? That's a "large chunk" of champions?

Jesus Christ, it's like the Boards aren't even trying to be reasonable or rational anymore. They just make stuff up and then other people buy into it.

A couple of weeks ago, "Everyone has a shield, shields are too strong"

Riot: "Okay, we've got an idea"

Boards: "WTF?!?! Why would you make a champion that does extra damage to shields?!"

The circlejerking on these Boards is more out of hand than usual.

Your ignorance is showing.

Riot deliberately removed GW from a vast majority of champs bavk when they were phasing it out of the game.

Yaśuo Main4 votes

besides this is NOT how you fight the shield problem

how do you fight it

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Mordekaiser is an after-thought at this point. Can't say I blame them either, they've been having a real hard time trying to figure out what to do with him.

They've pretty much just been letting him exist until they figure what to do.

He needs his re-rework already.

Herald Est Mors2 votes

Mordo doesn't need a rework, he needs to be buffed in ways that let him top or maybe even jg more efficiently. his kit in my opinion is great, and he is in no way op, nor underpowered. Riot wants the fantasy of melee bot lane being able to contest to marksman poke but that wont ever happen. they need to accept that it wont happen until a major meta shift, and put mordo where he belongs.

iDarkWind6 votes

Wow, they decided to gave such great ability to someone like Irelia instead of an Assassin, that are struggling precisaly because of Shields power atm

flibitydoo1 votes

Irelia is a diver though is she not? Or her other endgame fantasy is just splitpusher/duelist.

Technically if she is diving the backline, that anti shield thing probably helps out a lot.

GigglesO1 votes

inb4 assassin tank class is created.

flibitydoo3 votes

but a item 3193 tank item 3800 assassin Chogath sounds horribly imbalanced and Riot would never be dumb enough to let that happen. Right?

ZackTheWaffleMan2 votes

{quoted}

but a item 3193 tank item 3800 assassin Chogath sounds item 1401 horribly item 3083 imbalanced and Riot would never be dumb enough to let that happen. Right?

FTFY

SpaghettiVase1 votes

She's not gonna be diving the backline in the laning phase. She's gonna be kiting the melees with her 200 aa range lmao

iDarkWind1 votes

So do Assassins. If they reworked Duskblade into something that made you ignore shields for x seconds when you came out of no where without the enemy having vision on you would be amazing, because the Assassin played perfectly there and was able to reach the backline fast, wich rewards him. This is an example. I still don't like the idea of the one having such useful ability be someone that isn't an Assassin.

Peel supports SHOULD counter Assassins, but at this point they're too strong. Assassins rework also delayed their damage wich means supports now have more time to react to their burst wich defeats the purpose of the Assassins (Not going to defend cases like Rengar or Kha'Zix or Shaco, invisibility overall with the exception of Talon's R is so dumb on those champions).

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Would you rather have such a thing on one assassin only and thus you can ONLY pick that assassin? It's a far better idea to put such an effect on an item active that any assassin could build so they'd have an option to deal with shields but it would also have a cd so it wouldn't completely invalidate a support.

iDarkWind1 votes

That's literally what I said. It would be better if Duskblade had it for example.

Risen296 votes

It reminds me of how poppy's anti-dash feature was an attempt to deal with the hyper mobility assassin meta. It didn't change anything. Likewise, Irelia is not going to change anything about the reported predominance of shielding.

IdveYsUfSK5 votes

looks like irelia will be the nail in the coffin for the remaining morde mains as the extreme hard counter.

Malicious Metal9 votes

Or, you know. Just play the fucker mid where he can actually compete.

Child of the Pit5 votes

yeah compete against the Xerath, Veigar or other poke/burst that will make his life a missery

Malicious Metal4 votes

He manages to shrug off poke rather easily. The strength of Morde mid against mages is him being able to force them under tower, already from level 1, and build up enough shield to make any form of retaliation futile.

Putting him mid is strategically better for your teamcomp too since Morde is more of a carry pick and likes having fighters/tanks enable him. Plus he has a lot more favorable matchups mid than top.

The only champion he has no chance of actually beating is Anivia.

GigglesO1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-21T12:32:31.620+0000)

The only champion he has no chance of actually beating is Anivia.

item 3060 and laugh

Child of the Pit1 votes

Back then when i played him mid lane felt rather difficult, especially cos i could get ganked from like 4 sides instead of one/two

Mordepool4 votes

{quoted}

looks like irelia will be the nail in the coffin for the remaining morde mains as the extreme hard counter.

Morde mains are Fighter mains. Fighters Fight it doesn't mention anyone about winning

Malicious Metal2 votes

Eh, I'd say we embody the best and the worst about both Fighter AND Mage mains.

Mordepool2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2018-03-21T15:12:46.279+0000)

Eh, I'd say we embody the best and the worst about both Fighter AND Mage mains.

It's a more unique playstyle that isn't rewarded by riot at all

Malicious Metal3 votes

We get to meme about Morde's sad state though!

Mordepool1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aov94Uv1,comment-id=00020001000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-21T16:12:24.941+0000)

We get to meme about Morde's sad state though!

Meme is love meme is unlife

Killer of Night95 votes

300% shield.. KK Next time make a champ that bypass Invulnerability. I hope they will buff mordekaiser mobility and Add some slow on his E for match with this matchup...

Teridax685 votes

I personally really like Irelia's rework overall, but that part is pretty much the only component to her reworked kit that I dislike. Anti-shield damage is a gimmick that has no historical or thematic relevance to Irelia, and one that is going to make the balancing of shields and shield champions more difficult overall as long as it exists. It really just feels like a mechanic that was up in the air for some time, that Riot decided to stick on their next champion kit just because.

It Hertz When IP3 votes

I mean, the boards have been asking for ages for an item that targets shields specifically. Naturally Riot put it in a champion ability.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

xelaker2 votes

"don't like shields? play irel. bam problem solved"

"I play support"

"PLAY IRELIA"

rG Thundrag3 votes

inb4 morde shield doesn't count as a shield cause bugs

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