When your nami heals less than the enemy ziliean

MorgManBasher·Dec 9, 2016·3 votes·949 views

What a surprise, it's a first time Nami in ranked who maxed her bubble first instead of heal. #FeelsBadMan

29 Comments

bad arcade kittyDec 9, 20162 votes

that feel when you played Hecarim and outhealed the enemy Soraka !

i had it once, we won ofc

sheldonbunnyDec 9, 20162 votes

Such a rookie mistake for someone at your elo. Guess even people that high aren't always well versed in champs. :/

MorgManBasherDec 9, 20161 votes

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Such a rookie mistake for someone at your elo. Guess even people that high aren't always well versed in champs. :/

Nah, I was on a smurf account in Gold. I would never ADC at my ELO, not good enough at it to carry with. Decent ADC but not good enough to be playing it in Diamond.

sheldonbunnyDec 9, 20161 votes

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Nah, I was on a smurf account in Gold. I would never ADC at my ELO, not good enough at it to carry with. Decent ADC but not good enough to be playing it in Diamond.

Ahhhh, makes more sense. Still a funny mistake.

Athenes LuluDec 9, 20162 votes

What, you don't max heal... maxing E is the real shit.

khorneyDec 9, 20161 votes

to be fait everytime zil utl goes off it counts as a heal

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

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to be fait everytime zil utl goes off it counts as a heal

I'm a ziliean main, so i know but that's still sad as fuck and should never happen.

khorneyDec 10, 20161 votes

but the amount of hp that you gain off your ult counts as a lot and a sort of burst heal is all, so if your ult is like 2kish and u ult nonstop thats alot. however keystones on zil are a interesting

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

How is someone that heals on a base ability being out healed by someone that only heals with their Ult with a "burst heal" other than the fact the Nami is trash and never healed in lane.

If you get out healed by ziliean as any healing support, you aren't playing your character right.

khorneyDec 11, 20161 votes

im not disagreeing but every ult and depedning on how much you use it, it comes up like every 30sec

Nameless VoiceDec 9, 20161 votes

Still trying to work out if you're saying that a first-time Nami should max heal first because it requires less Nami-skill, or if you are saying that only a first-time Nami would max her bubble first because you think heal is better.

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

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Still trying to work out if you're saying that a first-time Nami should max heal first because it requires less Nami-skill, or if you are saying that only a first-time Nami would max her bubble first because you think heal is better.

Both. You are brain dead if you don't think w or at the very least e max is better.

AdeBugDec 9, 20161 votes

Maxing heal isn't a must, it's a preference depending on how the game is going or what the adc wants. Taking heal first, sure, always. Could've been a Zilean spamming the ult and his W, with additional CD. His ult at level 3 is pretty healing...

"Zilean marks himself or an allied champion with a protective time rune for 5 seconds. If the target would take lethal damage, they are instead transported back in time, regaining 600/850/1100 (+200% Ability Power) Health"

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

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Maxing heal isn't a must, it's a preference depending on how the game is going or what the adc wants. Taking heal first, sure, always. Could've been a Zilean spamming the ult and his W, with additional CD. His ult at level 3 is pretty healing...

"Zilean marks himself or an allied champion with a protective time rune for 5 seconds. If the target would take lethal damage, they are instead transported back in time, regaining 600/850/1100 (+200% Ability Power) Health"

As a Diamond support main and a ziliean main, if you get out healed by ziliean as Nami, kys

TendajiXDec 10, 20161 votes

Um, zilean doesn't have a heal other than his ult, one of the highest and most powerful heals in the game, so I don't see your point here.

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

lol I'm a ziliean support main in Diamond. If you out heal a Nami support, that Nami is trash, hands down.

TendajiXDec 10, 20161 votes

Not really, zilean's ult is probably the most powerful heal in the game. If you mean total damage healed through the game, that makes a lot more sense.

MorgManBasherDec 11, 20161 votes

Yes, total heal as in end game stats her being horribly out healed by ziliean, almost double.

TendajiXDec 11, 20161 votes

either zilean's teammates had brain damage, or nami really was ass XD

ScissorsNstuffDec 10, 20161 votes

zilean has had one of the strongest heals in the game on his ult for a long time now though.

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

And yet it's an Ult and not a base ability you can spam all through lane. The nami was trash and didn't even have a point in heal till level 4, no reason to make excuses for her.

If you get out healed by ziliean as a heal support you are just bad at supporting with that champion. You should never be out healed by ziliean if you are properly using your heals.

I'm a ziliean main, I love how people are telling me about my own champion lmao

ScissorsNstuffDec 10, 20161 votes

Ult or not, your post is lacking in meaning. You say its strange for zilean to outheal but he has always outhealed.

Also Nami isn't really a heal support, I mean she can but that's really not what you pick nami for. She should get out healed by a dedicated healer even if the champ themselves is not a natural healer which zilean sortof isn't but he does have a pretty strong heal

MorgManBasherDec 11, 20161 votes

You make me sad if you honestly think this.

You are comparing zilieans ULTIMATE healing with Nami's W. If you are being out healed in the end game stats by Ziliean you are playing Nami like garbage.

ScissorsNstuffDec 11, 20161 votes

end game stats?

item 2003 + item 3010 is all zilean would need to accomplish that.

maybe add item 3083

In that case its only even easier for zilean to outheal her.

btw did you know that if you end the game before 20 minutes with a decent sejuani jungle she will probably have more damage than any other champ on the team? There's a lot of weird facts like this that don't seem to make sense at a glance.

MorgManBasherDec 11, 20161 votes

I'm not going to waste my time talking to an idiot. The Nami maxed her Q first instead of her heal, end of story. I can see why you don't post on your main, unranked trash.

ScissorsNstuffDec 11, 20161 votes

I don't post on my main because I got banned for telling some stupid fucking kid the real difference between black lives matters and the klu klux klan without childproofing my words in GD.

And you don't post actual math because you're full of shit and looking for an out because you know you're full of shit. Even if nami maxed her W first she'd want to conserve mana. These days its possible for zilean to outheal someone with a heal especially if you're talking about end game stats which never tell the whole story.

Even if you assume I'm unranked, and I am, this is not a matter of strategy, its one of math and logic. Both of which you seem to be failing at even before you decided to depend on my irrelevant rank to do the footwork for you.

ÇhåryzårdDec 10, 20161 votes

Every Nami should max her W first, and then usually the best way to go is E next for the buff to your teammates. No real reason to max Q first or second imo.

If a Nami is maxing her Q first she's bad.

I'm a Nami main, when I see stuff like this it makes me cringe.

MorgManBasherDec 10, 20161 votes

Exactly, I have no idea how there are so many brain dead people in this thread defending her lmao

Nami is a great champion, I use to main her myself in like Season 3-4, but then started playing carry supports. Currently main ziliean support.

ÇhåryzårdDec 10, 20161 votes

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Exactly, I have no idea how there are so many brain dead people in this thread defending her lmao

Nami is a great champion, I use to main her myself in like Season 3-4, but then started playing carry supports. Currently main ziliean support.

Yea I main Nami and Sona, and tbh at least in my last ranked season I never actually saw a good Nami...idk what it is. Like so many weird builds and just missing so many bubbles. A lot of people max W and Q, but it's so much better to max W and E. I think this is the first time I've heard of someone maxing Q first though....idk how people think that's a better idea than the heal..