Like, gets tiresome seeing aram only accounts getting all the best characters while I'm at a disadvantage on my main account simply because I own all the League champions.
It's suppose to be all random all mid yet and yet it's not nearly as random if you barely own any champions.
I don't play aram, I hate it because it's stupid and unfair because what I stated, but unfortunately my newbie bronze friends drag me a lot there and it's a chore every time.
WaterTribe14 votesThey should just make ALL champions available in ARAM like one for all and you get one at random. This will make all the hard work of ARAM only accounts be ruined which makes me laugh :D. Also, make it so that everyone has only one (two can be debated, just an idea) reroll available every game.
MisterHealYoGirl6 votesIt's adjusted for champions owned a little; the rate at which you get rerolls increases sharply as the number of champions you own increases. (Every game gets you 30 points base plus the number of champions you own).
Battlecast Sona11 votesthe problem is that if you only own 10 champs and they're all broken OP in ARAM, you're very unlikely to need rerolls.
MisterHealYoGirl4 votesThe free rotation is also available in ARAM; in the scenario you proposed, this means that In the long run, you'll get one of the champions you own around 54% of the time, once rerolls are taken into account. I'm not saying that owning all the broken champs is a good thing to do, but it's probably not as bad as you're picturing.
If you're interested in the math, the chance of getting a champion you own in ARAM is (Chance of getting a champion you own) + (Chance of getting a free week champion)(Percent of games you can reroll)(Chance of getting a champion you own off of a reroll) or (x/(x+10)) + (10/(x+10))((x+30)/250)(x/x+10) where X is the number of champions you own. The equation breaks down a little as the number of champions owned gets higher (since there could be overlap between free week and owned and accommodating for that makes the equation more trouble than it's worth) but it's good for the parts of the scale you're interested in. Plus there really aren't more than maybe 10 really S-Tier picks in ARAM, so the effect drops off as you go.
Battlecast Sona1 votesThe problem is that someone with only 10 champs unlocked that are all S-Tier picks in ARAM has an astronomically higher chance of getting an S-Tier pick than someone like me, who owns the entire cast (and has enough IP in the bank to unlock the new ones as soon as they come out for the next 8 champ releases...). It makes ARAM really un-fun because players who have invested the time and unlocked the champions to trade in games/try them out are constantly playing really bad stuff or trying to get rerolls/trades/etc to work out......
Well, basically, 54% of the time starts to sound REALLY great when there are 130something members of the cast.
MisterHealYoGirl1 votesI mean, I own a majority of the champions (mostly lacking the newer ones and the ones I don't like, like Olaf and Rammus), and ever since the introduction of snowball, pretty much everything is playable. There are champions I don't LIKE, but it's not because they're horrible in ARAM.
Honestly, it's a trade-off: do you want to be playing against someone who gets Lux more often than you do, or do you want to be playing with someone who's never played a game of Zed in their lives?
cocacolalips1 votesFacts: Aside a couple exceptions like Galio, win rates have not changed at all with the introduction of snowball. Ranged champions still win almost twice as much as melee champions.
Explanation: Most melee champions already have a dash, dashing in has never really been an issue. Turning that dash into a net gain for your team, either through the form of an objective, or a clean ace that results in the gain of an objective is how you win games, and snowball doesn't help you accomplish that. 9 times out of 10, when you snowball someone you a) die because you are now outnumbered and out of position far away from your team b) dive a turret as a team and die to said turret. Both options result in you trading kills at best, and feeding at worst and neither result gets you any closer to the victory screen.
MisterHealYoGirl1 votesFirst of all, do you have a source for that?
Anyone who says that snowball didn't make more champions fine in ARAM didn't play before it was a thing. Snowball is not going to fix all of a champion's problems: traditionally weak picks like Evelynn, Elise, and Udyr struggle because they're bad in 5v5 teamfights, or else they have kits that just aren't suited to the mode, like Rek'Sai or Bard. It would take a change of a titanic scale to shake up the very top and bottom of the list: certain champion archetypes are going to dominate in ARAM, and others will do poorly. But Mark/Dash had a huge impact on low-range engagers and mages like Maokai, Galio, Kennen, Vladimir, and so on. When the spell was added, Maokai and Sion actually knocked Varus and Sona (before her massive overbuffs lol) out of the top 10.
cocacolalips1 votesIf by source you mean current win rates, you can look at any website like lolking or op.gg. If you mean win rates before/after snowball, not sure if you can find that. I only have my words to back me up hah. I have been playing ARAM ever since it was a thing in custom games back then and before Riot stepped in with an official queue, I'm kinda familiar with the map. I remember looking at win rates now and then before taking over one year break from the game, I only came back earlier this year.
The only champions that benefited from snowball are champions without innate dash to begin with, but with actual killing power, so when they finally dash in with snowball, stuff happens. IE= R magnet: Talon, Fiddlesticks, Galio, Kennen, Alistar, Karthus.. and half of these are still very mediocre today, simply because dashing in, now and then is not enough to win games. You need the individual strengths I described above.
Maokai has always been strong, and Sion, snowball happened around the time he got his rework so I can't really tell, but it's most likely the same as Maokai, press R > stick in > be forever annoying and kill stuff. These 2 champions are only strong because they counter the current meta dominated by ranged champions. Both are a pain to deal with as a ranged champion, they are sticky, beefy and deal lotta damage, with or without snowball.
balbraaksel6 votesI understand what you mean but I disagree because most champions aren't hard to at least play decently if you know what you're doing, if you're bad with a champion or the champion just doesn't generally do well in ARAM there's always a strategy to itemize to do better in your performance. Most champions I wouldn't do well with in ARAM are possible for me to do well with simply because of playing the champion in a new way.
Things like: AP Nasus/MF/Kog'Maw AP rush on Janna (for AD+shield to support)/Anivia (for abusing the Frostbite damage) AD caster Varus/Jinx/Gnar/Ilaoi/Ashe/Caitlyn Frostfang on Heimerdinger/Malzahar/Brand/Xerath/Cho/Nidalee/Cassio/Swain/Urgot/Fiddle/and a few more, lol Corrupting potion on Singed Tank with mana and cooldown reduction Vel'Koz (passive damage is all I need) AD Poppy (Rapidfire Cannon build) Both Manamune and Archangel's Staff on Ezreal/Blitz/Yorick/Malzahar with further focus on mana giving items.
I also use scaling cooldown reduction 20% rune pages for both AP and AD, take Clarity a lot and get magic penetration if the champion I play has good base damage and/or % health damage. One match I had Zyra and all the enemy had were carries so I had bought
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, lol (for the flat magic pen, total flat magic pen was 68 while most enemies had 30 to 45 magic resist xD).
Some things are just silly to do and not that viable normally but in ARAM the safer you do your damage the better your chances are of winning.
LuxannaVeritas5 votesMay I ask how you know which accounts are ARAM only?
Just because someone owns a champion good at ARAM doesn't mean that they have an ARAM only account. I'm guessing you have a working method to find out?
DrCyanide3 votesMy guess is that there's one ARAM account for every 100 players or so, probably less than that, but by threads about them you'd think they were everywhere.
LuxannaVeritas3 votesThanks for the approximation, but that doesn't answer my question.
My question is how do we even know IF an account is ARAM focused. And even if we can tell, why does it MATTER?
Before a game, you should not be able to tell if an account is ARAM heavy or not. If someone accuses another player of being an ARAM only player JUST from what champion he/she plays, that is not something to get tilted about. Plus, by playing ARAM, you always have a chance to go against good ARAM champions.
Someone who thinks that a game is lost just through champions is, no offense, a liability to their team.
DrCyanide5 votesOh, I fully agree, I think people are shouting "ARAM account!" without any proof.
Cheekynorth3 votesThe sad thing is with so many 'OP' champs floating around I've heard the phrase "Games are often decided in the pick phase" which should never be heard
LuxannaVeritas2 votesI concur.
The drafting/picking phase can make a game easier or harder, but it almost NEVER decides a game. Players just need to know their champs and how to play around them.
All of the OP picks have weaknesses; players should focus less on whining about how OP they are, and focus more on finding those weaknesses.
Lanarrin6 votesits simple actually, just look at their account afterwards and see their match history and what champs they own.
LuxannaVeritas3 votesI knew someone was going to say this...
How many champions are good at ARAM? Like, around 20? It's mostly mages and marksmen as well.
There's absolutely NO WAY you can tell a mid/adc main with ARAM good champions from an ARAM only account! Perhaps they like playing ARAM! That method you mentioned is pure speculation, and incredibly biased based on champions.
And another thing. Why are you looking for this in the first place?
Finding out that an account "fits" a description of an ARAM only account will do nothing but TILT YOU. Why are you making yourself suffer, when you can just brush off a loss as a bad game and move on?
Lanarrin1 votesI mean I personally dont really care, but i do know they exist, just helping someone discover a way to see what they want.
Best Valor NA2 votesI thought you could only see non-friends Ranked matches, not normals.
redfeenix4 votesLol wtf are aram only accounts lmao.
But idk what you're talking about aram pulls from all champs, not just champs who you own / available to you right?
PhDs Nuts22 votesLol wtf are aram only accounts lmao.
But idk what you're talking about aram pulls from all champs, not just champs who you own / available to you right?
No, it's owned and free week champs. Too many people on ARAM only buy champions like Jayce/Lux/Xerath/Soraka/Alistar/Varus/etc so their chances of getting an ARAM powerhouse champion are like 80-90%.
redfeenix6 votesPeople cheat in ARAM ? Every time I think I've heard it all the league community surprises me with something like this.
Lmao hHah why would you cheat in aram does winning mean so much that you don't wanna play random champs for fun ?
Battlecast Sona8 votesI have had people with accounts who only have Lux/Xerath/Nidalee/Ziggs/Jayce unlocked threaten to afk unless someone dodges when shit champs are free and they get them. They won't even dodge themselves - just threaten to afk if someone else doesn't. =/
redfeenix20 votesThat's so dumb they should just open up ARAM to all champions regardless of ownership. Then we can get truly random games instead of the pseudo random games of aram we get currently
Battlecast Sona4 votespeople have argued that it would suck to random a champ you don't own, and I feel that.
I think what it should do is pick 5 champs at random and then assign them to the players based on ownership. So like it'll random 5 champs from the whole pool, but it PREFERS to give players a champion they own (it's not guaranteed) - this way you're still more likely to at least get something you've played before (from your account), but if you only own 5 champs to try and cheat ARAM it's unlikely one of those will get randomed so you'll get stuck with something you don't own.
Basically people trying to game the system get screwed while normal players are pretty likely to get something they own.
redfeenix14 votesHonestly I wouldn't mind trying out new champs in ARAM. Would probably be more fun than how I try out new champs now ..... In ranked games ;)
DevlinCrow2 votesWe would get no keys or boxes though, for some of us who play ARAM 90% of the time (and not just buy the OP champs) this is a massive dealbreaker.
I'll have my League fun ruined because some people don't like facing those with a slight advantage
warmcorntortilla4 votesYeah, you'll have YOUR fun ruined, so that everybody else who likes to blow off some steam and play a fun game mode don't get shit stomped for no reason. Also... why would you get no keys or boxes?
And it's not really Riot's fault you play ARAM a lot. Riot should balance the game for the entire playerbase, not just ppl who play ARAM.
Warlord Zudane2 votesGod... stop acting like people besides him play this game.
DevlinCrow1 votesYou don't earn chests or keys for champs you don't own.
If you think unlocking all champs will prevent shit stomps then you're delusional mate. Sometimes the enemies get a way better team.
Look at my match history, I do well in most ARAM games, I must never get "aram only accounts that demolish everyone". Either that or I play well anyway? I don't blame all my losses on the enemy getting better champs, sometimes you get bad matchups but that will happen regardless of the champ pool.
cuddlykitten42 votesShit, bring the OP champs on. I'm an ARAM winning son of a gun. I don't care who I get, I'm going OP. Teamfights are my specialty.
RainbowIcee10 votesit shouldnt surprise you. This is why rapid fire is sooo popular. A lot of people just want to play cheese champions and their fun is just griefing other players.
redfeenix8 votesThis is why the next URF should be ALL RANDOM.
The randomness PLUS the URF will make this game mode really addicting/fun.
I hope next time URF comes around, its only All Random All URF. @L4T3NCY
Edit: sorry i'm dumb. the correct name is Ultra Random Fire
Psi211 votesThis is why the next URF should be ALL RANDOM.
The randomness PLUS the URF will make this game mode really addicting/fun.
I hope next time URF comes around, its only All Random All URF. @L4T3NCY
Those that are crying about URF mode feel less skilled because they can't handle:
URF mode is more fun than Ranked and Normal Summoner's Rift because you can choose your champion and prove your hand eye coordination is better than most players.
Sorry you can't handle it.
bill843 votesIf you grab evelynn and just stand there spamming q is that really showing any superior skill or ability?
Psi211 votesIf you grab evelynn and just stand there spamming q is that really showing any superior skill or ability?
Yeah because evelynn is the most banned in URF... Seriously... sorry you got beat on your main in URF by ...boggle Evelynn. I'd have better respect if you had said Galio. But this is what you get when you can't hack URF because it is a higher skill level.
bill842 votesCoincidentaly, Galio actually is my main and they nerfed his w cd for specifically URF making him pretty bad in that, but when I played him before they nerfed that, I had like a 70% winrate not because I was better at urf, but because I was playing a champ that was just stupid in urf.
Psi211 votesCoincidentaly, Galio actually is my main and they nerfed his w cd for specifically URF making him pretty bad in that, but when I played him before they nerfed that, I had like a 70% winrate not because I was better at urf, but because I was playing a champ that was just stupid in urf.
So you had a 70% winrate in URF on a champ that is constantly banned in URF mode... yeah makes sense
bill842 votes*when I played Galio my bad
Cheekynorth10 votesIt should always have been random. Makes it less tryhard with people not knowing if they will get Zed, Varus or anybody OP or if they will get horrible champs. Rename it Ultra Random Fire instead of Ultra Rapid Fire.
So much better this way because then I will no longer be annoyed at Evelynn, Lucian, Zed, everything because they are broken in this mode, and instead of being tilted I will think 'well they just got lucky. I could get an overpowered champ next game'.
There will also be no URF only accounts, because it isn't a gamemode that will stay due to it being RGM
RamboDash154 votesUltra Random Fire
[zombie-brand-clap]
DænariusKhølerin1 votesJust asking maybe a stupid question here that I have wondered for a while - Why is ARAM random in the first place?
TyrekGoldenspear3 votesBecause it stands for All Random, All Mid mate.
DænariusKhølerin1 votesLOL. I never looked up what it stood for even though that would have given me the answer, FailFish. Thanks.
TyrekGoldenspear4 votesDon't worry, we all forget Google exists when we want to ask questions. :P
TyroneWatermelon1 votesWell,I'm getting really tired of this shit everyone game there is either Varus/Lux/Ziggs NO exceptions,mages rule this mode
