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Dynmaic Que really ruined ranked for me

MorgManBasher··149 votes·3,613 views

I just can't even with how toxic some of these people are to solo quers... My last game on my smurf, one of the three man que goes 0-5-0 in lane and not a word was said, but as soon as the solo quer jinx bot lane started feeding "Jinx so useless, report jinx. Trash" constantly harassing this poor person and when I started defending her they go on about how I am harassing them in all chat and to report me and Jinx for being toxic... Like, please for the love of God give me back solo que. I realize people will be toxic no matter what, but at least I won't have to deal with 3-4 man ques being toxic together harassing anyone not part of their group.

This game has just become so toxic, unbalanced and just awful in ranked lately where I have no motivation to play it... I am not even talking about unbalanced champs/masteries/etc, just the unbalance dynamic que has brought to the game along with how toxic things have become.

I just want old ranked back man with the occassional duo ques.

46 Comments

Tufio56 votes

there is no ranked.

Dynamic queue is not a competitive system, is a glorified normal

Unoriginalii5 votes

Never loged in to upvote something and never really cared for commenting either. But you have the perfect description for how this new queue feels. Nice icon by the way. :D

ferociouslamp11 votes

dynamic q has ruined q times as well, im sitting on 8 minutes right now waiting for a match which never happened before and I could adc>sup but now if I do that I'm a sup main.

Exhume Duress1 votes

Really it only takes me a minute or two to get into ranked and I play jungle and adc.

Aazzlano2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Foggers 925,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bnIxzmso,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-01T18:26:25.284+0000)

Really it only takes me a minute or two to get into ranked and I play jungle and adc.

8-15 minute queues are pretty common at my elo (diamond) half the time I even forgot I queued up.

Exhume Duress1 votes

I am not ranked since I am constantly put with people that try stuff like tristana support so I just stopped playing ranked.

Choaru1 votes

And then you are YouTube watching videos and the client doesn't pop up and you don't hear the que noise :^)

franticFurball4 votes

Really it only takes me a minute or two to get into ranked

There is no ranked.

Ranked requires rankings that carry actual meaning. Since Dynamic Garbage rates players individually, for something that is entirely dependent on a non-static team setup, the ratings are meaningless.

DynQ is a glorified normal. Nothing more.

Osaka 77810 votes

I agree 100%. That's why I already quit. If you wanna vote to make Riot bring solo q back, quit LoL.

ff4sk6 votes

You think that's bad? I just had a 3 man on my euw account who would not stop harassing me the entire game. I fully understand this was partly my fault for not paying attention and I'll take what ever blame you put on me but the amount of insults and report threats I had to take was unbearable.

I recorded the entire game on obs just to show the kind of shit they pulled. On my first clear adc decided he'd steal gromp and put me behind just for forgetting to take smite. follows me into jungle and steals wolves or krugs when ever he can so I can't get a full build.

I decided to go a full tank build since our darius top(who was also band wagon'ing and flaming me by the way) wasn't doing so well. the mid laner(one of their premade) decided it would be hilarious to steal my blue at every chance he gets despite him feeding 11 kills in less than 20 minutes. They not only did not let me surrender or farm to actually be relevant in the game they spent the entire time cussing me out and asking the enemy to report me while running 3 v 4 into the enemy without me or darius(who went afk)

needless to say I didn't reply to any of the shit they said to me and just continued trying to farm what ever camps were left. despite being put so far behind I still managed to get a score of 6/10/7 with 5 items including boots.

I have no problem with premades getting to play with their friends and stuff but I personally am fed up with this sort of treatment and no longer wish to have premades in my team. I believe just like premades are allowed a choice to play with as many friends as they'd like we solo players deserve our own strictly solo queue away from them. It's our choice.

the whole talk about how premades are less toxic is a lie. They hold power over the team and can choose if they'll let the team win/surrender/lose/whatever, they're more likely to be toxic due to having friends to back them up, and they throw off what ever integrity ranked had with all this "legal"boosting riot is choosing to ignore.

not only is it not healthy but it's also killing the game.

But hey, what do I know right? I must be another toxic player trying to attack riot and the poor, poor premades who just want to play with their friends and have a nice, healthy, none toxic time ((((heavily implied sarcasm)))))

Meriipu3 votes

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the whole talk about how premades are less toxic is a lie. They hold power over the team and can choose if they'll let the team win/surrender/lose/whatever, they're more likely to be toxic due to having friends to back them up, and they throw off what ever integrity ranked had with all this "legal"boosting riot is choosing to ignore.

Any player can essentially choose whether you lose whether you win is up to the whole team as it is a team game and not a solo game surrendering should be removed for all elos below masters I disagree with people being more toxic because of having friends. Rather having friends around might make people more controlled since you have people you sortof know around rather than randoms that will never remember you.

ff4sk8 votes

{quoted}

Any player can essentially choose whether you lose

Wrong, in the old queue if one player decided to start feeding or went afk the rest of the team would still stand a chance as long as the 4 worked together instead of the 3 man premade(bot and mid) constantly rushing to push bot or mid only to get 5 people fucking their ass while they bitch about how the jungler who just respawned wasn't there to win the whole teamfight for them.

whether you win is up to the whole team as it is a team game and not a solo game

I agree it is a team game, which is why I think premades are harmful since they'll most of the time try to be the shot callers and refuse to listen to anybody that isn't wihin their circle of friends. or another thing they'll do is not ping ss because they've already informed their premade over skype or curse leaving the solo player clueless as to whether they'll get 3 man ganked any second now or they're safe to farm their lane.

surrendering should be removed for all elos below masters

I disagree, some games are simply unwinnable and instead of wasting another 10 minutes in game because the premade kept pressing no on the surrender vote I could be queuing up into another game with different players that can hopefully work better with me and help me win.

I disagree with people being more toxic because of having friends. Rather having friends around might make people more controlled since you have people you sort of know around rather than randoms that will never remember you.

Once again I disagree with you for many reasons. One being is that a premade will never blame their friend for a fuck up and will quickly pin the blame on anybody else within the team that isn't in their circle. two being that they'll more likely listen and play around eachother's choices rather than anybody else on the team which would result in them either cussing and going back to their lane or trying their dumb tactic, dying, then blaming you for not following them into the death trap they made for themselves.

Premades have a lot more power than solo players at the moment simply for being in a group. they're almost always guaranteed a role. their calls will always be listened to due to them outnumbering you their surrender votes(even if it were only a duo) still count a lot more than a solo player's. and they get to enjoy never being wrong because heaven forbid you call out one of them and ask them to stop diving the enemy 3 levels ahead of them.

You'll get showered in insults, reports, and will get to enjoy them stealing your farm or leaving you to die in every teamfight.

the whole concept of premades is unhealthy and I see no pros to it beside premades getting to shit all over solo players.

and if that's what they want then fine, let them. I'm not asking for dynamic queue to be removed but it's only fair we solo players get our own queue.

Troll for Trump6 votes

Had a premade Braum and Zac always refusing to group, never peeling for the ADC "Zac does more dmg than Jinx". While bot was getting shoved, they just did Rift Herald, leaving Jinx to solo defend.. Even had the audacity to start insulting me when I asked Braum to peel jinx..

Had a 4man queue, silent almost the wholegame, never saying anything even if I asked anything or gave advice. Whenever anyone on the opponent's team was killed by the fed plat Hec, he would just say "???". Which isn't reportable because god knows why. They wouldn't group or follow up with my engages, and would only use their abilities in conjunction with one another, doing their little cheese things.

It's either boring, or a toxic shtfest.

Rand0mH3r0X2 votes

they bitch about how the jungler who just respawned wasn't there to win the whole teamfight for them.

You do notice me! That seems to be all of Silver and Gold, "WIN MY LANE JG WTF GET OUT OF MID I NEED FARM!!!!"

Enemy has destroyed Nexus Turret! Enemy has slain Rand0mH3r0X! Enemy has destroyed the Nexus!

"/all bg report this jg for no ganks and feeding"

And then I actually get a warning about having bad games.

Pre-mades are worse when they're in groups. You'd think just n times as worse on their own, but nope, it's Troll^n.

Invictus Unbent6 votes

Bring back SOLO queue

Meriipu5 votes

The funny part is solo players in my experience have been some of the most toxic players I have ever run into

http://i.imgur.com/YE5WdhA.jpg

this one went on to spend the rest of the game flaming and blaming dynamic queue for the loss

just stop blaming dynamic queue for your problems. You just make it a self fulfilling prophecy by looking for things premades do and jumping on that

Jorencice1 votes

Don't worry I'm with you bro. Not to mention people only remember the bad and they don't remember the 100 or so good premades just the 2 or 3 bad ones.

Karn Bishop1 votes

Lets play devils advocate, if you were the solo Q player and got constantly ignored and denied jungle ganks because in that pre mades minds their entire group > jungle monsters > minions > Random duck outside > solo player, how would that make you feel?

Now keep in mind the solo player also has to get treated like this all the time now and while he may run into a nice pre made once every 20 matches it does not make up for the rest of them.

franticFurball1 votes

this one went on to spend the rest of the game flaming

Oh really? That's strange, because I see ZERO toxiciy in the screenshot.

and blaming dynamic queue for the loss

Well, was he wrong?

Because, if mid has ganking opportunities, and the jungler refuses to gank, because the midlaner is not his premade buddy, then yes, the premades plays contributed to the loss.

ZeeWolfZ5 votes

I experienced a round like that. I was in my Plat 1 promos, I was given a 4 man premade. They brought in their Gold 4 friend and gave him jungle. The funny fact is that I had THE SAME team my previous promo round. This Jungle proceeded to repeat same mistakes of the last round. He did nothing because this elo was too high for him. Instead of staying quiet, I told the premade that they are hurting themselves and other players by tagging along players who are too inexperienced for the given elo. However, 2 of the plats agreed, one of them with their goldy trashed me. It's just sad that the truth always hurts.

Mirelyght4 votes

you post about people being toxic and how thats the problem but blame it on dynamic que....i really dont get all these premade problems that some people are claiming happen all the time.

i think its business as usual dealing with the toxics but you're just trying to lay the blame at riot's feet rather than admitting that humanity online sucks in general.

the only thing i hate about dynmic que is that there's no team ranked. however i'm not going to blame all the toxic trash on it.

and i looked at your profile...you're plat 1 Morgmanbasher....out of 90 some games you have 60 wins....why are you even complaining? you can mute and win all day .

54795436_DEL1 votes

if there is a better option to improve the playing environment instead of this shtty dynamic que.... obviously its just not about toxicity. I've had trio or 4 man que trolling when I muted them. Dynamic que sucks man.

Dehitay3 votes

Everybody has made this problem abundantly clear, and yet Riot calls dynamic queue "the healthiest competitive option"

DarkRitual3 votes

For every single 3-4 man premade that trolls/flames/tyler1's, there are likely 50+ that act fine and proper.

Leetri1 votes

Yeah, people use their cognitive bias as an argument. They forget the 50 games where they played with a nice premade without even noticing it was a premade, but they remember the 1 game where someone got angry and started to rage. I can't even remember the last time I got even remotely flamed or raged at in League, most of the time they're just quiet or talking to each other in Spanish.

Trailblazerhero3 votes

I feel like there is no difference in Dynamic queue, but then again, I mute everyone at start from habit, so my opinion may be worthless.

DrDiaga2 votes

Matchmaking in general usually ruins ranked.

Snowplosion2 votes

Wait what is the difference between a toxic person in Solo Queue than Dynamic. Maybe he has few extra buddies, but this is the same shit as the last five seasons.

ff4sk3 votes

the difference is it's one person. One person who will not have as big of an impact if he fed or went afk nor will he have anybody to back up his bullshit insults and agree with his useless tactics just because they queued with him.

The difference is tremendous.

54795436_DEL3 votes

if it had been a solo, people will ignore and proceed and ofc the amount of insults is not significant compared to how much insults they bring as a premade trio or 4 man que.

Karn Bishop1 votes

Ever hear of the crusades? started by a group of people who stroked each others egos and whenever someone told them what they were doing was wrong they murdered them because hey were a big bully group and your a lone voice.

Till i feel like that one guy who just told the pope its wrong to murder people and now I am being hanged for challenging the churches riots authority

Snowplosion1 votes

That was beautiful, but I'm kinda stupid with a low IQ so can you answer one question?

Are you for or against Dynamic, or do you have any opinion?

Karn Bishop1 votes

Both, dota manages to have a system that includes true solo and then a separate dynamic queue system for groups so all this waah solo q will ruin dynamic queue knights annoy me to no end.

Snowplosion1 votes

Got it. How do they do that?

Setfrees2 votes

Dynamic queue is great I think personally. I understand it takes longer to get certain positions. I figured they would have more glitches and stuff worked out on it though. I still til this day don't get all of my pop ups to accept match. Depending where I am.

Then you have the 10min queue which sucks. you cancel it...and go for same positions and get a match in 10seconds....would love to have that one explained to me sometime

Setfrees1 votes

I kind of agree with TUFIO about glorified normal. Yet at the same time. If your good you can easily make your way to the top. Me however. ill never make past gold lol.

Excalibait1 votes

I am a pure Solo player as well and can understand your feelings just too good.

The only thing I can give you for your journey: use the mute function. I noticed that my personal performance drops whenever I see people starting to flame and complain about everything. I don't like to type anything in chat except maybe flashtimers and call dragon/baron, but the former is really irrlevant in my elo as everyone forgets it in the next couple of seconds anyways and the ladder can as well just be pinged on.

I got up from Bronze 4 all the way to Silver 3 and my winrate increased dramatically in about a few weeks, simply by using the mute button. It might sound weird, but this little feature helps me keeping myself mentally clean and getting my butt through the toxic swamp called Dynamic Queue..

54795436_DEL1 votes

This is so true. Several days ago, I got matched with 3 man ques, and they were calling me boosted animals and monkeys just because I fed my opponent mid laner. This dynamic que is being ridiculous.

Aakesh1 votes

Nothing competitive about this we have people being god damn boosted live on twitch to call this competitive is a god damn joke

Karn Bishop1 votes

Praise the truth, praise the sun.

fisox1 votes

Play with friends or people you met in normals/ranked it's much better. like half of your problems are gone like Q timers and pick / ban and maybe even toxic shit. League is a team game anyways. Solo Q is great but if we cry nothing will change, just accept the reality and suffer the ranked. You're not alone every one have this problem.

Parceval1 votes

I've found my games to be significantly better, warmer, less toxic by far than seasons past.

You do bring up a good pain point for Riot to address (bullying is unacceptable), but, at least for me, it has been FAR less than seasons past.

R FLASH XD1 votes

Dynamic queue didn't change shit for me, and I'm a solo player.( and no this is not my main account so I don't want to hear u r not level 30 yet u can't even play ranked)

Ev0lutionz1 votes

Great, so now if i do badly in a game i can expect 4 people to harrass me instead of just the 1 or 2 occassional a**holes? Thanks Riot!

Enchanté1 votes

dude... im getting even more scared to even finish my provisionals after reading all these threads about dynamic queue.. Should I still play ranked?

DIRU1 votes

dynamic queue is good as a concept but tbh it's just used for boosting now.

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