Short Thoughts on Each Champion

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Aatrox - Keep the same.

Ahri - She is too safe and she is not satisfying to play needs minor change that would nerf defensive abilities and buff offensive ability. Make W an ability

Akali - Shroud needs to have a longer delay at least early game between her unstealthing and restealthing.

Alistar - Personally I think he is fine.

Amumu - Needs full rework. Completely new kit and updated visuals. Keep bandages in some way.

Anivia - IDK maybe something to make her less one dimensional but I'm not certain.

Annie - Full rework make her and tibbers have way more interation.

Ashe - Honestly I like her but something needs to be done with her weird crit mechanic unless they fixed it.

Aurelion Sol - He is fine.

Azir - Needs a change to be less strong in organized play but better in solo q and I like his overall design.

Bard - Stay the same

Blitzcrank - reduce impact of hook and make him stronger without landing hook.

Brand - Make ult a skill shot and then it can bounce, or make the target need to be blazed first then it can bounce. Reduce damage on passive.

Braum - Keep the same

Caitlyn - Reduce effectiveness early game and make her less opressive.

Camille - Keep the same

Cassiopeia - Keep the same

Cho'Gath - remove one shot potential with Ult and biff everything else

Corki - reduce passive effectiveness and buff ult

Darius - Reduce passive AD

Diana - Needs a small to large VGU somehow keep crescent strike

Dr. Mundo - Full rework keep no abilities just his visual design and being a giant muscly guy

Draven - honestly dont like him at all but I just think a new passive

Ekko - keep the same

Elise - keep the same

Evelynn - keep the same

Ezreal - already being worked on

Fiddlesticks - full rework. Keep ult and change everything else

Fiora - idk just shouldn't have percent health true damage that scales with AD

Fizz - haven't really played him much after assassin update so idk

Galio - keep the same

Gangplank - change interaction with grasp

Garen - remove villain mechanic and small update mainly for his ult

Gnar - make him less oppressive early and stronger in mega gnar and not so weak late game in mini gnat

Gragas - keep the same

Graves - nerf he is just overtuned

Hecarim - minor vgu he is just too strong when viable and too weak if he isn't stomping

Heimerdinger - make him max Q again and actually think about where and when to place turrets

Illoai - some for of a gameplay update she just doesn't work because of her design

Irelia - keep the same

Ivern - rework

Janna - rework because she is unhealthy. She is considered weak unless she is stomping with stats

Jarvan - do something with his W

Jax - minor vgu move current Ult passive to his regular passive

Jayce - make it viable to go a more hammer form oriented play style as well as the current

Jhin - nerf just overtuned especially the MS

Jinx - keep the same

Kai'Sa - small nerf just a little overtuned

Kalista - rework either keep passive or keep rend but I dont think she can have both

Karma - Revert if not at least bring fans back and allow ally cast W and shield bomb

Karthus - honestly feel like he is just dated and needs a rework

Kassadin - keep the same maybe nerf

Katarina - keep the same

Kayle - being looked at

Kayn - buff pre evolution and make blue Kayn worth sometimes

Kennen - probably needs a minor vgu mainly keep ult

Kha'Zix - keep the same

Kindred - keep the same

Kled - keep the same

Kog'Maw - buff AP kog but for the most part keep the same

LeBlanc - keep the same

Lee sin - keep the same

Leona - needs a minor vgu mainly changes to W and Passive

Lissandra - she is being looked into

Lucian - keeps as is

Lulu - nerf polymorph

Lux - get away from the land Q blow my load play style

Malphite - vgu needs less power in ult and more in basic abilities

Malzahar - bring back ad playstyle

Maokai - make W a skill shot that goes through minions

Master Yi - full rework keep alpha strike and that's it

Miss Fortune - keep as is

Mordekaiser - is being worked on

Morgana - needs new passive, lower impact on Q and E and more impact on W and ult

Nami - keep the same but nerf damage and healing on W

Nasus - new passive and make W a skill shot

Nautilus - keep as is

Nidalee - keep the same

Nocturne - rework keep paranoia idea

Nunu - keep as is

Olaf - keep as is

Orianna - keep as is

Ornn - keep as is

Pantheon - rework and only keep block mechanic or ult

Poppy - keep as is

Pyke - keep as is

Quinn - another rework

Rakan - keep as is

Rammus - ok

Rek'Sai - minor gameplay update lower team info so tremor sense is only for her and add more furry interactions

Renekton - keep as is maybe slight early game nerf

Rengar - Keep the same

Riven - make her less tedious to play

Rumble - keep as is

Ryze - just throw on another rework

Sejuani - revert E and add reduces armor and mr

Shaco - rework and keep boxes

Shen - remove global ult make it ranged like galio or tf then buff lane

Shyvanna - add more cc then just R

Singed - keep as is

Sion - revert buffs

Sivir - keep as is or look into ult change

Skarner - remove spires and make something else

Sona - keep as is

Soraka - keep as is

Swain - keep as is

Syndra - maybe something with her ult

Tahm Kench - keep as is

Taliyah - get her back to mid

Talon - reduce reliance on lvl 2 and nerf lvl 2

Taric - keep as is

Teemo - keep as is

Thresh - perfect

Tristana - make W reset a set amount of seconds and not the whole CD

Trundle - keep as is

Tryndamere - rework

Twisted Fate - keep as is

Twitch - keep as is

Udyr - rework

Urgot - keep as is

Varus - keep as is

Vayne - keep as is

Veigar - change E

Vel'Koz - keep as is

Vi - idk what but needs something

Viktor - make playable with buff

Vladimir - keep as is

Volibear - rework

Warwick - keep as is

Wukong - rework but keep ult

Xayah - keep as is

Xerath - keep as is

Xin Zhao - keep as is

Yasuo - keep as is

Yorick - another rework

Zac - keep as is

Zed - keep as is just require him to land Q

Ziggs - keep as is

Zilean - rework and keep Q and W and passive

Zoe - dont allow her W to let minions drop summoners

Zyra - fix her bugs and move her back to mid

Also some context to some desicions. I believe upfront damage will be dealt with this next preseason so some champions willbecome less problematicfromthose changes. If you guys have any that you disagreewith or want meto expand on let me know. Also youguys can expand on mine if you guys had ideas. So let's share our thoughts.

Edit: Forgot to add that Riot is looking into AP fighter items so thatwas also taken into account.

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Supercoolkiller1 votes

{quoted} Ahri - She is too safe and she is not satisfying to play needs minor change that would nerf defensive abilities and buff offensive ability. Make W an ability Akali - Shroud needs to have a longer delay at least early game between her unstealthing and restealthing. Amumu - Needs full rework. Completely new kit and updated visuals. Keep bandages in some way. Anivia - IDK maybe something to make her less one dimensional but I'm not certain. Annie - Full rework make her and tibbers have way more interation. Ashe - Honestly I like her but something needs to be done with her weird crit mechanic unless they fixed it. Azir - Needs a change to be less strong in organized play but better in solo q and I like his overall design.

Blitzcrank - reduce impact of hook and make him stronger without landing hook. Brand - Make ult a skill shot and then it can bounce, or make the target need to be blazed first then it can bounce. Reduce damage on passive.

Caitlyn - Reduce effectiveness early game and make her less opressive. Cho'Gath - remove one shot potential with Ult and biff everything else Corki - reduce passive effectiveness and buff ult

Darius - Reduce passive AD Diana - Needs a small to large VGU somehow keep crescent strike Dr. Mundo - Full rework keep no abilities just his visual design and being a giant muscly guy ** Draven** - honestly dont like him at all but I just think a new passive

Ezreal - already being worked on

Fiddlesticks - full rework. Keep ult and change everything else Fiora - idk just shouldn't have percent health true damage that scales with AD Fizz - haven't really played him much after assassin update so idk

Gangplank - change interaction with grasp Garen - remove villain mechanic and small update mainly for his ult Gnar - make him less oppressive early and stronger in mega gnar and not so weak late game in mini gnat Graves - nerf he is just overtuned

Hecarim - minor vgu he is just too strong when viable and too weak if he isn't stomping Heimerdinger - make him max Q again and actually think about where and when to place turrets

Illoai - some for of a gameplay update she just doesn't work because of her design Ivern - rework

Janna - rework because she is unhealthy. She is considered weak unless she is stomping with stats Jarvan - do something with his W Jax - minor vgu move current Ult passive to his regular passive Jayce - make it viable to go a more hammer form oriented play style as well as the current Jhin - nerf just overtuned especially the MS

Kai'Sa - small nerf just a little overtuned Kalista - rework either keep passive or keep rend but I dont think she can have both Karma - Revert if not at least bring fans back and allow ally cast W and shield bomb Karthus - honestly feel like he is just dated and needs a rework Kassadin - keep the same maybe nerf Kayle - being looked at Kayn - buff pre evolution and make blue Kayn worth sometimes Kennen - probably needs a minor vgu mainly keep ult Kog'Maw - buff AP kog but for the most part keep the same

Leona - needs a minor vgu mainly changes to W and Passive Lissandra - she is being looked into Lulu - nerf polymorph Lux - get away from the land Q blow my load play style

Malphite - vgu needs less power in ult and more in basic abilities Malzahar - bring back ad playstyle Maokai - make W a skill shot that goes through minions Master Yi - full rework keep alpha strike and that's it Mordekaiser - is being worked on Morgana - needs new passive, lower impact on Q and E and more impact on W and ult

Nami - keep the same but nerf damage and healing on W Nasus - new passive and make W a skill shot Nocturne - rework keep paranoia idea

Pantheon - rework and only keep block mechanic or ult

Quinn - another rework

Rek'Sai - minor gameplay update lower team info so tremor sense is only for her and add more furry interactions Renekton - keep as is maybe slight early game nerf Riven - make her less tedious to play Ryze - just throw on another rework

Sejuani - revert E and add reduces armor and mr Shaco - rework and keep boxes Shen - remove global ult make it ranged like galio or tf then buff lane Shyvanna - add more cc then just R ** Sion** - revert buffs Sivir - keep as is or look into ult change Skarner - remove spires and make something elsw Syndra - maybe something with her ult

Taliyah - get her back to mid Talon - reduce reliance on lvl 2 and nerf lvl 2 Tristana - make W reset a set amount of seconds and not the whole CD ** Tryndamere** - rework

Udyr - rework

Veigar - change E Vi - idk what but needs something Viktor - make playable with buff Volibear - rework

Wukong - rework but keep ult

Yorick - another rework

Zed - keep as is just require him to land Q Zilean - rework and keep Q and W and passive Zoe - dont allow her W to let minions drop summoners Zyra - fix her bugs and move her back to mid

Also some context to some desicions. I believe upfront damage will be dealt with this next preseason so some champions willbecome less problematicfromthose changes. If you guys have any that you disagreewith or want meto expand on let me know. Also youguys can expand on mine if you guys had ideas. So let's share our thoughts.

Edit: Forgot to add that Riot is looking into AP fighter items so thatwas also taken into account.

Apart from a nomination to the messiest list award, and the fact that you started off with having lots to say about every champ, but the furhter down you got on the list, the less you had to say about the champs, and more champs were "keep as it is"(Feels like you put more effort and thought into the champs higher up and in the end u just got tired of it all).

I don't think having one big thread about ALL champs is the way to go, when there's most likely single threads about all these matters already. Way to messy. A for effort tho. Fixed the list some for you.

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