The only ADC with a lower win rate than Trist is Urgot.

PentaJump·2/6/2015, 3:22:30 PM·3 votes·1,390 views

So, in the last patch, they reworked Trist making her be stronger than only Urgot in terms of an ADC.

They reworked Fizz, giving him the 3rd lowest win rate when taken mid, and causing the pros to play him as an AD bruiser top lane, apparently. They nerfed Akali, giving her a winrate that's only higher than Gragas, in mid lane. And they reworked Ahri, giving her the highest winrate in the game.

5.2 was a catastrophe.

18 Comments

urgotdangit2/6/2015, 3:36:08 PM3 votes

To be fair, Urgot really isn't an ADC, and anyone who plays him that way isn't realizing his full potential.

GummyBearWookiee2/6/2015, 4:57:43 PM3 votes

Trist pre-patch....played regularly by 30% of the collective whole....winning 50% of the time. Rework happens....Now being played by 95% of the gaming population that has no idea how to play her or perhaps even how to play an ADC...gee...big surprise her win rate is down.

The Whamboozler2/6/2015, 5:00:45 PM3 votes

I agree. Buff Urgot.

junglerboy162/6/2015, 4:09:41 PM2 votes

Fizz was actually supposed to be a high DPS fighter when they first released him, which is why he was designed to be hard to catch. The issue is that they then gave him too much burst so he was used mostly as an assassin instead.

Giovarco2/6/2015, 4:58:44 PM2 votes

Urgot isn't an ADC and Urgot isn't a criterion for comparison.

mi ramfan2/6/2015, 4:02:23 PM1 votes

I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Tristana is actually about the same in power as she used to be. Fully charged E (not hard to do with Q) does an obscene amount of damage thanks to its 1.1 bonus AD ratio before the multiplier. It's also godly for taking towers, so if you can sneak off to top or bot lane during a mid siege you can easily take a tower and get out before the enemy team can react.

She's good at different things than she used to be. I think that much like Kalista, she'll sit there not being played for a while until eventually somebody picks her up in LCS and suddenly everybody's playing her.

Trylobyte2/6/2015, 4:14:17 PM1 votes

I think back to all the 'Gut Akali' 'Gut Trist' and 'Gut Fizz' posts as I read this. Then I smile. Getting what you want sucks doesn't it, community?

SmokingPuffin2/6/2015, 4:35:37 PM1 votes

Clearly Twitch used his stealth to juke you.

Reworks often come out improperly tuned. Just ask Ahri . Don't worry, they'll fix it.

I agree that 5.2 was pretty full of balance fail.

Adolf Ghostler2/6/2015, 4:42:31 PM1 votes

Something changes, "er they gutted ____, now they're trash". They can't counter build/pick or champ is doing their job too well "hur gut this champ, no skill op". Someone gets reworked "dur why to olaf another champ. Rip"

And here I am knowing how to play the game and enjoying everyone I play, Phoenix, Invoker, Sona, Techies. Except for Zed. I don't really enjoy playing Zed.

Fitz n The Fool2/6/2015, 3:37:01 PM1 votes

Actually Twitch is lower, but yeah, Trist fucking sucks now. Still boggles my mind how people think she's better than she was before.

zane yalgir2/6/2015, 3:39:18 PM1 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/Tristana

So, in the last patch, they reworked Trist making her be stronger than only Urgot in terms of an ADC.

They reworked Fizz, giving him the 3rd lowest win rate when taken mid, and causing the pros to play him as an AD bruiser top lane, apparently. They nerfed Akali, giving her a winrate that's only higher than Gragas, in mid lane. And they reworked Ahri, giving her the highest winrate in the game.

5.2 was a catastrophe.

still confused why you guys think riot knows anything about balancing or in game behvior

PentaJump2/6/2015, 3:37:35 PM1 votes

True. Well, if you're looking at it that way, then the reworked Trist has the lowest win rate out of any ADC.

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Actually Twitch is lower, but yeah, Trist fucking sucks now. Still boggles my mind how people think she's better than she was before.

If you're going by LoLking stats, Twitch's winrate is deflated by people who try to jungle Twitch. Bot lane ADC Twitch has a higher winrate than bot lane ADC Trist.

Drunk Rummate2/6/2015, 3:39:29 PM1 votes

Remember Gragas? Remember Skarner?

Yeah, most people don't.