My Problem With Senna

okamiyasha95·11/23/2019, 9:33:31 PM·3 votes·1,590 views

She should not have a heal. Her abilities should only do damage and that's it. She already out damages her ADC in every aspect. She has a root, an ability that let's her allies go invisible that also increases their MS, a Q poke that's longer than the lane itself with no cast time so dodging it is all about how lucky you are and it does an excessive amount of damage to enemies and turrets. She can stack mist souls which procs a better passive than Thresh. A global ult with no cast time? Her whole kit is flat out disgusting. She shouldn't have created. If you want her in the lore, just add her in the lore. Match-ups that are supposed to work, plays you're supposed to come out winning all get thrown down the drain because she can just heal her allies. Remove the healing from her kit.

22 Comments

Kazekiba11/23/2019, 10:14:12 PM5 votes

Youre almost right.

Senna should do way less damage and only heal.

Azazel Aerternum11/23/2019, 9:56:17 PM4 votes

Teemo Support does not counter Senna...

8640011/23/2019, 10:00:34 PM4 votes

I agree. Make the heal into a shield because heals are obnoxious and make the lane stale.

GreenKnight11/23/2019, 9:52:31 PM4 votes

She's a support that has pretty exposed weaknesses. She needs to be able to do SOMETHING for her teammates.

Can we stop crying about her, for fuck's sake? She's balanced and pretty fun to play.

Focus on those pathetic reworks instead.

Darkdemon65311/23/2019, 9:42:42 PM3 votes

You have it backward. She's (support to be) a support. She should be healing, shielding, and protecting/enabling, not dealing damage.

iiGazeii11/23/2019, 9:50:24 PM2 votes

Her ult has a huge cast time, plus a short travel time. Her Q also has a cast time, and the area that deals damage is quite thin. Both can be sidestepped.

Hanzo Hasashi11/25/2019, 12:58:41 PM2 votes

People love how senna is op but yasuo isnt and people hates him anyways

tyralie11/23/2019, 9:50:02 PM1 votes

she is weak as hell without a good supp ( so almost 3/4 of the game in ranked ) you nerf her range all other adc crush her for free because she have no attack speed while all other ( except jhin but he have lot of dmg unlike senna ) don't forget the 0.5sec between each aa that make her unable to kite . People cry about senna but bot lane is full of xayah kai sa cait who kill her with almsot no difficulty.( don't forget the cancer ap supp that does more dmg than adc with almost no item )

I love senna adc but she have a lot of weakness : -She is way to dependant of her supp she is a walking target the whole early game -her e is basicaly useless because even if you can't see her you jsut spam skill on the area and mos t of the time its done -her ult is good but take way too long to activate if the other are not stupid they will just move to dodge it -her passive with stack is good but her horrible attack speed ruin it other adc can shoot 2 3 time the time you shoot once.. -you are restricted with almost all adc item : you can't take attack speed item/crit item you MUST go letality no other choice( or maybe trinity but expensive )

She need some change but not a nerf jsut some fix

klin53711/23/2019, 11:46:03 PM1 votes

I wish her ult had a more noticable indicator that it's being casted, like when ezreal goes "huaaaaaa" you know to start moving to the right or left and he's guarenteed to miss but senna ults kinda just come out of nowhere.

Corvega11/24/2019, 1:15:05 AM1 votes

{quoted} She should not have a heal.

Wrong.

Her abilities should only do damage and that's it. She already out damages her ADC in every aspect.

So doesn't that mean she should do less damage and still have healing.

She has a root

Yes supports have cc as well as some marksmen.

an ability that let's her allies go invisible that also increases their MS

They aren't invisible. It's similar to Akali shroud. You know were she is, she is in the middle, and her allies are some where in the small circle. The movement speed is also pretty low. Not a big deal.

a Q poke that's longer than the lane itself with no cast time so dodging it is all about how lucky you are and it does an excessive amount of damage to enemies and turrets.

It does have a cast time, which gets lower with attack speed. It also has a high mana cost, and if she is using for damage then she probably isn't using it for healing WHICH IS CALLED A TRADE-OFF. The excessive amount of damage you think its doing is probably a combination of the q damage itself and her passive doing percent current health damage when she attacks and enemy twice, and any other on hits like from item 3147 and item 3042.

She can stack mist souls which procs a better passive than Thresh.

Why are you even comparing these two stacking passives? Thresh's souls gives him stats he wants, and Senna's gives her stats she wants.

A global ult with no cast time?

It has a cast time. Should the indicator be more obvious or show up earlier. Yes, I'll give you that.

If they are gonna nerf anything it's how much her Q HEALS HERSELF NOT NERF HOW MUCH IT HEALS HER ALLIES, since that combined with fleet foot and other any other healing runes work makes her pretty safe in and out of lane.