Cause now you get already hypercarry champs like 
who get an EXTRA indirect buff.
Half the adc's already build 
Like why did she need this buff, she was basically balanced before, now shes basically same if not better than 
zlumpy9 votesThey reaaallly want her to be in the bot lane.
ShadowParker4 votesI mean.. Top lane Lulu is not fun whatsoever to play against.
YumaS2Astral1 votesI mean.. Top lane Lulu is not fun whatsoever to play against.
But she wasn't overpowered at solo lane at all, at least not after the nerfs, she was pretty balanced and had a low winrate.
Ralanr1 votesStill didn't make her a fun lane opponent up in top. In mid at least she has a good chance of being poked back. But in top? In top she'll just speed boost herself away when you try to get into melee range to punish her for poking.
Combine that with thunderlords, and she's going to poke down anyone without much sustain. Mages can at least use long distance spells to farm in mid so they have slightly less to worry about when Zed shoots through minions (they have a lot to worry about though). Most top laners have to actually smack minions to farm, leading to free lulu poke.
I don't care if she's good in mid or bot, in fact I prefer she'd be played there instead of top.
Cloud2739 votesSo, I just checked her numbers (win rates) and Lulu is actually the worst support (not counting Annie, Nunu, and Poppy, because most people don't consider them "traditional" supports) currently. Solo lane Lulu is practically non existent at this point (no data whatsoever) because her AP ratios have been gutted so hard. Riot has nerfed her extremely hard over the years and she's suffering because of this. If you want to get rid of AP Lulu, fine, but at least buff her utility to compensate.
http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend
Baron Perenolde6 votesLulu better than Janna? Lol.
Seraphic Siren4 votesi will think lulu is a worse version of janna :D less peel and defensive than janna~
rescued4 votesAgreed, many supports are surperior to Lulu, such as Sona, Nami, Janna, Soraka
Seraphic Siren3 votesya~ Sona, at least can poke more / more damage Nami, similar to sona but still more sustain or damage than lulu. Janna and soraka , needless to mention right, peel and sustain.
Hahahahyena1 voteshey at least they gave something for lulu to compete with
rescued2 votesIk that statement made me laugh
Cloud2735 votesWhen they nerfed her before, I think they were trying to get rid of AP Lulu (even though most of her abilities scale with AP). If you notice, they didn't touch her damage or ap ratios at all with this patch. Just gave her some more utility with her moves.
Ok I lied they did nerf her damage a little this patch. I don't think Riot wants Lulu to have damage/burst. They want her to be a pure utility champ.
DoctorFunguy5 votes{quoted} now shes basically same if not better than
TOP FUCKING KEK
ZenSaiyan4 votesthe problem is riot still thinks lulu is a support.
EddardStark8412 votesShe is a support.
Finding Teemo4 voteshttps://puu.sh/pRunW/a5325749e5.png Just look at those "huge buffs" She's totally S tier now, right?
Seraphic Siren3 votesi love the stat, people are just blind :D
Ulquiorra9953 votesAll people complaining about these "buffs" seem to conveniently forget the fact that her harass and wwaveclear went down by massive 30%. But yes, AS buff on Whimsy which means you gave up your hard CC when used will totally make her OP.
Sassmast3r3 votesI think Lulu needs buffs, but not in the "hidden AS buff for allies" area. She simply needs to either have more CC, or the range on her W and E buffed slightly. As of right now, using Lulu feels so incredibly clunky when you try to W the enemy or even E them actually. Despite the abilities being targeted, the range on said abilities feels so wrong to use that I'm not surprised whatsoever people bring her into other lanes.
Hahahahyena1 votesjust give it a couple of patches, those ranges on the abilities are solo lane lulu, once they realize that people are actually using her for support theyll give her the necessary fixes
Sassmast3r1 votesI sure hope people start using her as support more frequently, she seems so cool, and I absolutely love her ultimate and her Q, but due to those two abilities feeling so off, I usually fail miserably in lane and have to resort to Karma :/
balbraaksel2 votesI hope Lulu mid won't ever become a thing again. I really hate that E duration nerf (from 6 to 4 seconds, remember?) which doesn't allow to glitterlance twice from one E. It was just really fun to do and a little unpredictable for the opponent that created funny situations where the enemy asks for what the heck happened :p
Seraphic Siren2 votesomg i really hate this nerf....like you get so limited time to aim for Q and most of the time, pix cant even catch up the enemy...just so not worth on casting on enemy now,
rescued1 votesThe only way to have Lulu healthy is to keep her bot lane. If you buff her AP mid/top, shes OP because of her utility. So take away her AP and shes a support now, which is what she was created for.
Also, the polymorph is superior to the AS, which the AS isn't even that good imo (the AS also adds from the BASE not the TOTAL). Her winrate is only 45% - 46% which isn't that great. She gets outclassed by a lot of supports.
Champion Skin2 votesYeah... 375 - 875 gold worth of AS for 3 - 4 seconds probably isn't worth it compared to reducing the enemy damage to 0 for 1.25 - 2.25 seconds
Hahahahyena2 votesor knocking up/back or blocking damage or giving a shield that blocks all cc, hell even 
(ESPECIALLY with her cooldown buffs coming soon) is better than lulu because she brings a hell of a lot more to the table than a insta healing growth ult and AS buff, sona's w is a washed down lulu ult and e for christs sake
rescued1 votesI main Sona now since lulu is weak (imo) and Sona can provide more for her team + damage.
Friendly Ram1 votesHow has her win rate changed since the changes?
rescued6 voteshttp://na.op.gg/champion/lulu/statistics/support
She has actually gone down in winrate. (45.6% to 45.17%) Her mid has gone down as well (47.83% to 45.91%)
Friendly Ram1 votesCool thanks. So does that mean the tweaks weren't too bad?
Finding Teemo3 votesConsidering that she lost something fun about her for no gain (no, I don't play solo lane Lulu)... they were pretty bad. She's playable but it wasn't worth it. What she needs is a rework.
Lady Hammerlock1 votesThese buffs were completely intended for her support side,they reduced her wave clear a lot in attempt to completely or mostly erase solo lane Lulu from existance
And yes they were necessary she kept getting nerfs because of her solo lane counterpart that slowly it killed support lulu so support lulu needed a buff
however I'm still seriously disliking how they changed her Q,if the problem was her wave clear i have no idea why it reduces the damage against champions to
Finding Teemo2 votesThese buffs were completely intended for her support side,they reduced her wave clear a lot in attempt to completely or mostly erase solo lane Lulu from existance
And yes they were necessary she kept getting nerfs because of her solo lane counterpart that slowly it killed support lulu so support lulu needed a buff
however I'm still seriously disliking how they changed her Q,if the problem was her wave clear i have no idea why it reduces the damage against champions to
I guess dealing full damage while not pushing the wave as much would be OP.
She was definitely in a better state before this patch, and I'm not sure if they were necessary. It's probably not possible to make her a strong support without breaking her or making her solo laning stronger.
The W buff was a terrible idea. I don't think it's strong right now, but it may be a problem in the future if it gets buffed. And if that happens, she will most likely get gutted again because of it.
I really hate the Q changes because they significantly weakened her poke and turned her into another shield bot, making her less enjoyable to play. Her versatility shouldn't have been sacrificed for a weak AS boost.
She needs a rework now... Riot has proven that it's no longer possible to balance her.
Aptest1 votesAs a sometimes lulu player and a support main, one of my main gripes with her is that the shield simply is not rewarding enough.
i think the shield should be able to fully block an ability from an opponent.
so... here's a buff.
Finding Teemo1 votesSounds a bit too powerful though.
Aptest1 votesi did not mean the cc component.
but i do not get why fully blocking the damage from supporgana's dark binding is too strong. even if i am on point with the shield, morg is rewarded with damage? y?
BloodyTompon1 votesThat's intended and good design. Shields should be less powerful than damaging abilities. Similarly heals need to be less powerful than damaging abilities in general.
The active, not the reactive, action needs to be the more rewarding. If the reactive action is more powerful, the active action has skewed risk/reward and so the action is rarely the correct one.
In your example, if Lulu blocked all of Morg's damage then the correct play for Lulu is to wait until it will hit. The correct play for Morg is now to hold on to her spells and not waste the mana because the damage won't sick -- She'll hold on to her spells unless a kill is basically guaranteed. The net result of Lulu having a stronger shield is that the lane becomes stale and non-interactive.
Aptest1 votesShields in general are not weaker than damaging abilities. Lulu's shield specifically is. Morgana's? Just the opposite.
in fact lots of shields in the game are outright stronger than damage abilities. you can easily make that case that strong shields allow for windows of strength and thus promote aggression.
whereas **healing **makes damage not stick and therefore not worth pursuing.
you want to promote agression in lane? nerf relic shield's sustain. nerf sustain masteries. nerf vamp scepter. and nerf every other heal in the game.
Seraphic Siren1 votesthe thing i dont understand riot is, they keep saying they love to see support appear in solo lane, but actually they do not, why dont they just say it clear they hate mid//top lulu so they nerf it
Lady Hammerlock1 votes[{quoted}](name=Seraphic Siren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AQislEvc,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2016-07-06T21:29:49.053+0000)
the thing i dont understand riot is, they keep saying they love to see support appear in solo lane, but actually they do not, why dont they just say it clear they hate mid//top lulu so they nerf it
Im pretty sure its because Solo Lane Lulu has never turned out healthy and is way to what id like to call "Meta-fragile" where her power in solo lanes is can increase tremendously from a meta shift but reduce slightly in different meta's
Ulquiorra9951 votesYes it was.
And I just love how everyone complaining about Lulu "buffs" ignores the fact that her main damage spell went down by 30% in most situations and her waveclear went down by 30%. So yes, a buff which increases only her SUPPORT capabilities was the least she could get.
Finding Teemo2 votesWhen "buffs" make a champion less fun to play, they're not good imo.
CoolKnightST1 votesLulu was verry inconsistant before her buffs. She was never top tier as a result of the nerfs for her top & midlane. If she get nerfed I fear it will because of the solo lanes again. Not because she's finally viable as a support.
Finding Teemo1 votesFinally viable? She's always been viable. But maybe not in competitive or high elo.
CoolKnightST1 votesShe was really inconsistant and verry level depended for a support. Now her Q has a flat slow it made a hugh differents since she now doesn't even needs more than one rank in her Q to be viable. That's why these buffs helped her to much for a support.
Finding Teemo1 votesShielding is boring. I always maxed Q for the poke and it worked just fine for me. No problems climbing.
CoolKnightST1 votesIt's not about that. I still have games where I max Q first. The thing is that if you get behind or even when you have to roam a lot and get lower exp. You can still aply the same amount of cc. It's about consistancy ;)
Finding Teemo1 votesI just wish it didn't have to come with a damage nerf :(
Imperial Japan1 votesConsidering the amounts of unneeded nerfs she's gotten I'd say yes especially when she is not in fact a better Janna and well maybe I'll type more, I'm sleepy and I'm not risking typing lies or bs
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesJeez so much hate in this thread lol
