What if Aatrox's Abilities' Speed Scaled With His Blood Well?

Jeashi·11/3/2015, 5:00:53 PM·38 votes·2,081 views

Just as his attack speed is, his Q and E animation speed could scale up with how full his blood well is, this would fit him both thematically, and it would put more power into his kit, but also increase his reliance on Maintaining his Blood Well. Along with this, you could lower the base animation speed if need be. I feel like this would make him feel a lot smoother to play. Maybe it could be only active when you have a full well, or if you have your passive up.

Thoughts?

28 Comments

landonhammock11/3/2015, 5:10:01 PM5 votes

I don't play Aatrox but this seems like it would give a good indicator of when to trade when laneing against him ( similar to gnar rage bar?) and give him a decent buff

Alywan11/4/2015, 4:09:24 PM3 votes

Aatrox in S6, without a rework, and with the way things are headed is going to be this:

"Nobody has seen one lately, but they know from their ancestors that he is useless."

MLDzXnRRR11/4/2015, 6:53:59 AM3 votes

Aatrox has crap hp and loses 15 % of his hp for Q + E combo. So you have someone with less hp than Kindred, Graves, Kog, Lucian, Draven (everyone knows that the ADCs have crap hp, well Aatrox is even worse than them) who loses 15 % of it just for using two abilities.

His kit looks like Trynda 2.0, but he gets 1shotted.

I also like how RIOT ignores all the Aatrox posts.

HolowHall of Hal11/3/2015, 6:30:42 PM2 votes

I would prefer they did an older suggestion (dunno how long ago) in which they gave aatrox the ult sion used to have

Azteryz11/3/2015, 8:25:27 PM1 votes

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111124037/3441652-ibefzmqcb9qe11.gif

perhaps make his q have a cost refund and cd refund on kill/assist but only when hes in his max blood well "rage" mode and this is what im thinking will happen ;o

Jeashi11/3/2015, 11:20:40 PM1 votes

If anyone is afraid of having no Well to work with out of coming out of passive, using your Ult after reviving is extremely useful :D

Chicken4dinner11/4/2015, 12:23:56 AM1 votes

I feel his abilities just don't work with him anyway, he needs a decent rework.

junglerboy1611/3/2015, 6:51:41 PM1 votes

maybe instead make it so their base cooldowns get reduced by a certain % instead?

48983507DEL111/4/2015, 5:10:57 AM1 votes

I had a few ideas regarding Aatrox. Whenever his Bloodwell is full, he gains additional effects on his abilities.

Q, costing 10% CURRENT HP, could give him a shield for 10% MAX HP. Kinda like how Zac's blobs heal him for MAX HP when they cost CURRENT HP.

W could give him a movement speed buff every time he procs either Bloodthirst or Bloodprice

I would rework his E to be an auto-attack enhancer/reset that slows the target and sends out the blades behind the target to deal the magic damage and slow.

The bonus effect on his E would be a reduced cooldown every auto-attack.

I would rework his R to deal the magic damage, but also give out an aura to nearby allies that increases the amount of healing they receive from all sources by 10/20/30%

Of course, the damage on his Q, E, and Ultimate would be reduced to compensate, but I think it could make him a much better champion while keeping a lot of his identity and gameplay in check.

Also, they need to increase the time it takes for his Bloodwell to start decaying. I can't even go ward my lane without it starting to drain.

kJs11/3/2015, 5:14:24 PM1 votes

Not really good at early levels but probably good mid-game and late game. This would weaken his early even more if his cast speeds are slowed down even more. His Q Dark Flight would be way easier to cancel early if that's the case.

He'd be easier to punish as Riven and Darius, lane bullies in general. He already suffers unable to duel against them if taking Blades of Torment. I can however duel a Riven 1v1 with a W start heal from Blood Thirst and burst damage her with well timed Blood Prices. It's risky but it works and it lets me farm in lane at lvl 1 without getting zoned as hard as an E start.

Overall I don't think it would change the problems Aatrox faces that much.

I think if Aatrox got Q resets on kill and assist he'd be more impactful in fights with CC and an Aatrox flying around the battlefield would already satisfy (some of) his lore and theme. Doesn't have to be 100% CD reset, maybe 80% current cooldown reduction.

EDIT: You should probably clarify what you mean by Blood Well scaling. % or Flat? I was thinking you meant flat so late game his animations are seamless but early his animations are still obvious. If it's % then most of my first two paragraphs are pointless and irrelevant.

Cloud Potato11/4/2015, 2:25:44 AM1 votes

Aatrox already suffers from being a ball of stats. This change would remove all counterplay from his abilities, further cementing his identity as a champion you outscale, not outplay. No thanks.