Make sunfire toggleable

RFPSHBYQl7·Feb 19, 2017·74 votes·2,453 views

I hateEee WHEN red fire from sun DOES 2 dmg/yr to enemy laner and TURRET plant BOOM into my face for TRILLION damage

47 Comments

DannywolfFeb 19, 201724 votes

I also hate when I'm jungling/supporting and I need to ward/unward dragon and Sunfire Cape is always on and it hits dragon and all I wanted was this stupid ward. Rito pls.

EndlessSorcererFeb 19, 20174 votes

What support builds Sunfire Cape?

Junglers generally build Cinderhulk and that deactivates outside of combat.

MrHaZeYoFeb 19, 20175 votes

I've seen Leo build it, not saying they should.

Chembaron YamadaFeb 19, 201726 votes

To be fair, it is hard to praise the sun not building that glorious sunfire cape.

doiminat0r3600Feb 19, 20172 votes

Braum Nautilus Leona Alistar Sion

QuindecFeb 19, 201711 votes

item 3068 Leona IT IS HERESY NOT TO BUILD THIS ON LEO, PRAISE THE SUN YOU HERETIC!!!!

FantasySniperFeb 19, 20173 votes

Mostly Taric and Leona, but I don't recommend it even on Leona. Knight's Valor is superior.

Gosh DarnFeb 20, 20171 votes

It's an effective item on a few supports that want HP like Leona, Tahm, Braum, etc, especially if ahead.

AMYS GRAVEFeb 21, 20171 votes

cinderhulk does turn off but bami's cinder doesn't.

Also don't finish your cinderhulk first, the gold value of it comes as a multiplicative stat on your purchased HP so its better to rush an item with some HP first.

Trias000Feb 19, 201716 votes

But turrets also do 2 dmg/yr

MissingKayoFeb 19, 20177 votes

It's funny when people escape with a sliver of health and then get aggro'd and killed by a jungle monster though.

Warlord ScrapFeb 19, 20171 votes

Emarrisingly happened to me espically on tt going tbrough bottom jg to espqce the nexus turret

RFPSHBYQl7Feb 19, 20174 votes

same with champs who do damage with their dashes :D

5000000000000000Feb 19, 20177 votes

RIP All Ezreals/Kassadins who blinked onto Raptor camps

VelvetCrotchFeb 19, 20174 votes

As far as I know SC (no, not Starcraft) will get big tweaks in near future or will be removed ( hi, Atma's Impaler!)

morris1Feb 19, 20174 votes

Yeah, they said something about it being noninteractive. If I had to guess they'll probably make it an active and behave like Rammus ulti.

5000000000000000Feb 19, 201710 votes

tfw writing out Sunfire Cape is actually less effort than specifying that you're not talking about Starcraft

VelvetCrotchFeb 21, 20171 votes

rofl bro that was the point. just a lil odd joke.

getrektnoobsGGFeb 20, 20171 votes

why will Starcraft be removed??

it's not that bad..

VelvetCrotchFeb 21, 20171 votes

nah i dont think so buddy. just thoughts.

abbbezFeb 19, 20174 votes

How about just make it so that it's not activated while out of combat like Cinderhulk.

AnonagonFeb 19, 20171 votes

that still leaves the problem of people with sunfire being unable to attack turrets when any enemy is around without eating multiple turret shots

abbbezFeb 19, 20171 votes

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that still leaves the problem of people with sunfire being unable to attack turrets when any enemy is around without eating multiple turret shots

Exactly, I like that you can make the enemy take turret agro cause they went under MY tower without them actually attacking me.

Asayake 5150glowFeb 19, 20173 votes

Turrets don't do a trillion damage silly :P

But yeah aggro'ing baron is annoying.

RlP K0BEFeb 19, 20173 votes

I've managed to escape death so many times only to die from jungle camps being aggro'd by sunfire lol

AlienPrimateFeb 20, 20173 votes

The worst is when you are minding your own business hitting the enemy tower and suddenly you have tower aggro because a Shaco is standing next to you without you knowing.

Skins ProjectFeb 20, 20171 votes

Teemo

deoje299Feb 19, 20172 votes

Bit exaggerated, but yes being able to toggle sunfire cape would be very nice.

Kitty ClarissaFeb 19, 20172 votes

Make it only trigger when your in combat like cinderhulk , issues will be fixed there abit

MrHaZeYoFeb 19, 20172 votes

I think thats part of the inherent risk/reward of building it.

FantasySniperFeb 20, 20174 votes

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There's a concept called "Quality of Life". It is the wondrous capacity for something's ease of use and clarity deriving from its complexity, or lack thereof, as it isn't a quality you would always use in positive nor negative context.

No item in the game has a drawback, they don't even have a cost besides the gold used to purchase it, but for some reason Sunfire Cape does.

There is no point in this drawback. The lack of choice behind its effect on the game does not balance in any effective or desirable way. If it needed a "drawback", we could do anything better than this.

MrHaZeYoFeb 20, 20171 votes

I mean you could argue that Cool downs are a cost right? Using a Cool down and not having the active ready for a fight would make the item itself weaker until the CD is back up.

You wanna rush item 3751 then don't try to take a turret while the enemy is near.

FantasySniperFeb 20, 20171 votes

A cooldown isn't a cost or a risk if you previously never had it.

An extra ability with a cooldown is still better than no extra ability at all.

MrHaZeYoFeb 20, 20171 votes

Hurricane is Ranged only, Hydra Melee only. Those are drawbacks right?

Skins ProjectFeb 20, 20172 votes

No, drawbacks are a COST from when you do gain it IE +50 ad but -20 ap

Ranged/Melee is classification Not drawbacks.

notice me Sin piFeb 20, 20172 votes

since when did turrets do more damage than minion autoattacks?

jama655Feb 20, 20172 votes

when ever i buy sunfire i just accept the fact that i wont be near a turret for the rest of the game.

RoyalMachineFeb 20, 20172 votes

this is the only counterplay to this item. if anyone wants to be a pussy and rush a boring tank item, then they should be aware of the consequences.

RalanrFeb 20, 20172 votes

There is a reason I never mix mobility boots with sunfire.

Chaos Milk TeaFeb 19, 20171 votes

I'd prefer if we could press an active key that suppressed it for X seconds with no cooldown

SckullzzFeb 20, 20171 votes

That's the entire point of sunfire tho... you go in and grab aggro for you team. It should definitely not be a toggle lol

NA DarklarikFeb 20, 20171 votes

Holy shit i cant believe ive ever seen this sudgested in the 6 years ive been on the forums/boards. Please, this would be amazing e.e

Troy242621Feb 20, 20171 votes

item 1401 item 1409 item 1413 item 3751 too, please.

ZT XperimentorFeb 20, 20171 votes

How did you get negative armor? lol

getrektnoobsGGFeb 20, 20171 votes

DoT shouldn't pull tower aggro in general.

i mean it's just BS when you get attacked again after stepping out because of item 3151 , Deathfire Touch or any kind of poision when you are not actively attacking an enemy.