REMINDER to Riot that TRISTANA is still broken AF
please fix this sht already
please fix this sht already
what seems to be the problem
Who is she overtuned compared to?
She's a top 3 ADC and she's been like this for over a year now don't act like she's balanced. Her jump is easily THE best escape tool in the game since she "ignores" most CC except for suppresses, knockups and knockbacks (thank christ), her E pushes ridiculously fast, her ult pushes you back insanely far and her scaling is nutty.
If you think her W is the best escape tool in the game then you aren't familiar with

It's slow as hell. I can't even take anything else you say seriously because that's like saying Garen is the most OP toplaner right now -- it's just that absurd.
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If you think her W is the best escape tool in the game then you aren't familiar with
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It's slow as hell. I can't even take anything else you say seriously because that's like saying Garen is the most OP toplaner right now -- it's just that absurd.
It ignores.....CC.
Also,
Her Shunpo is targeted and NEEDS a unit to be used.
The distance he covers isn't nearly as far as Trist's jump.
The distance he covers is pretty tiny.
It's one of the safest escapes in the game since she can use it to ignore stuns, roots, snares, silences and grounded. Tell me that's not good. Tell me that her jump is balanced now. No other champion in the game can pseudo-ignore CC with their spells apart from Kat's current Shunpo, and even then she still gets CC'd at the end of it which usually results in her dying.
None of the three champion you mentioned possess "safe" escapes that cover a lot of distance and get reset (apart from Kat, who again, is targeted).
It's not absurd at all, there's a reason why she's such a safe ADC.
You're ignoring how godawfully slow her W is compared to the other escapes mentioned. Her W doesn't do shit against assassins that jump on her. She dies before she hits the ground a lot of the time. As far as I know, Tristana's W is the only escape you can even be hit in out of the ones mentioned. That means that trait should not be considered positive.
Kass's is instant
Kat's is instant
Fizz becomes invulnerable to almost everything during his, so he can't really be hit.
Also, Trist's has a far longer CD than Kass/Fizz/Kat unless she gets a kill/assist.
Kat may require a target but she can create her own and blink about 3 times really friggin quick.
May not go as far but he becomes untargetable, AND it does a very large amount of damage, too. It also has a low CD.
Okay distance mixed with a like 3 second CD. It is instant as well.
So I'm not really sure why you think her's is the best. It has good range, but that's about it. It's not a bad ability, it just certainly isn't the best escape in the game.
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You're ignoring how godawfully slow her W is compared to the other escapes mentioned. Her W doesn't do shit against assassins that jump on her. She dies before she hits the ground a lot of the time. As far as I know, Tristana's W is the only escape you can even be hit in out of the ones mentioned. That means that trait should not be considered positive.
Kass's is instant
Kat's is instant
Fizz becomes invulnerable to almost everything during his, so he can't really be hit.
Also, Trist's has a far longer CD than Kass/Fizz/Kat unless she gets a kill/assist.
Kat may require a target but she can create her own and blink about 3 times really friggin quick.
May not go as far but he becomes untargetable, AND it does a very large amount of damage, too. It also has a low CD.
Okay distance mixed with a like 3 second CD. It is instant as well.
So I'm not really sure why you think her's is the best. It has good range, but that's about it. It's not a bad ability, it just certainly isn't the best escape in the game.
Kat's isn't instant, there's an 0.75 second cast time.