I love how everyone rages at me for going warrior enchant instead of devourer and then I carry them.

Wiggle Dat Butt·Jul 13, 2015·1 votes·482 views

It is hilarious how closed-minded kids are these days. It just shows that they are no-skilled brats who honestly think they only way to win is to play some flavor of the month bullshit. THEY WANT TO BE CHEAP AS FUCK BECAUSE THEY HAVE ZERO SKILL AT THIS GAME.

I am honestly sick of people almost EVERY GAME complaining about Warrior enchant. Don't get me wrong, it highly depends on the build and champion BUT there are certain people the warrior is better on. Then when I go 12-0 and carry their sorry asses they shut their mouths. Just for the record many top junglers have stated that devourer is STILL the worst jungle enchantment.

You kids enjoy picking on people in Bronze and Silver with your devourer Shyvana, Master Yi, and Kayle now. Ya hear?

21 Comments

TaredomJul 13, 20153 votes

Your post makes you seem incompetent, but I understand what you're trying to say. I find that Warrior is far superior for that early game power spike, it's pretty colossal when paired with junglers that are oppressive in the early game, such as XinZhao and LeeSin .

So no, there is nothing wrong with snagging the warrior enchant to win the game in the early stages before devourer becomes relevant (You can get the warrior enchant around 7 minutes, as well as the devourer, it's just that the warrior enchant is a much larger power spike whereas the devourer really doesn't come online until around 17 minutes, which is further postponed if the warrior jungler punishes them for going that route.)

I suggest in the future trying to compose your messages in such a way that you aren't coming off braggy, childish and irritating so that you can get your point out better. The people raging should stop being sheep but you should also form your own opinions and play what you enjoy, saying "Just for the record many top junglers have stated that devourer is STILL the worst jungle enchantment" makes you sound like just as much of a sheep.

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 13, 20151 votes

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I suggest in the future trying to compose your messages in such a way that you aren't coming off braggy, childish and irritating so that you can get your point out better. The people raging should stop being sheep but you should also form your own opinions and play what you enjoy, saying "Just for the record many top junglers have stated that devourer is STILL the worst jungle enchantment" makes you sound like just as much of a sheep.

I really don't understand the butthurt you guys are feeling right now. I simply pointed out that the opinions of children every single game saying that devourer is the only way to win a game is not correct. I pointed out that people who are actually really good at this game disagree with them. That's it. If your feelings get hurt that easy, I suggest therapy or many stuffed animals to pick you up in your time of depression.

My god do all you angry, butthurt, and sad kids need a hug or what?

TaredomJul 13, 20151 votes

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I really don't understand the butthurt you guys are feeling right now. I simply pointed out that the opinions of children every single game saying that devourer is the only way to win a game is not correct. I pointed out that people who are actually really good at this game disagree with them. That's it. If your feelings get hurt that easy, I suggest therapy or many stuffed animals to pick you up in your time of depression.

My god do all you angry, butthurt, and sad kids need a hug or what?

I was agreeing with your post, I just asked that you construct it in less of a childish manner, this kind of behavior supports my statement.

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 13, 20152 votes

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I was agreeing with your post, I just asked that you construct it in less of a childish manner, this kind of behavior supports my statement.

Okay so maybe I'm a little on edge from people complaining about it every single game, literally.. every. single. game. 7 minutes in or so when I grab it if I snag a quick first blood or 2 kills which happens frequently. Honestly I'm sorry if you took it as me calling YOU one of these assholes who do this. It's been a frustrating day and this was just a little venting for me. Just glad the last 5 games were 5/5 wins.

Have a good one. Gonna go play some TERA, cya GD.

TaredomJul 13, 20151 votes

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Okay so maybe I'm a little on edge from people complaining about it every single game, literally.. every. single. game. 7 minutes in or so when I grab it if I snag a quick first blood or 2 kills which happens frequently. Honestly I'm sorry if you took it as me calling YOU one of these assholes who do this. It's been a frustrating day and this was just a little venting for me. Just glad the last 5 games were 5/5 wins.

Have a good one. Gonna go play some TERA, cya GD.

You as well, I've been building a lot of devourer lately but that's mostly because I main jungle and feel like I was just given a new toy, going that route is absolutely more than a viable option, just be sure to use that power spike to stop the devourer junglers before they come online, otherwise they will likely be able to out duel you.

YumaS2AstralJul 13, 20151 votes

While raging is wrong and certainly should be reported, Devourer is clearly superior on champions like Yi and Shyvana. They make much better use of the attack speed, and scale a lot better on late game with Devourer. Warrior is an early game enchantment and made for champions that fall off late game.

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 13, 20152 votes

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While raging is wrong and certainly should be reported, Devourer is clearly superior on champions like Yi and Shyvana. They make much better use of the attack speed, and scale a lot better on late game with Devourer. Warrior is an early game enchantment and made for champions that fall off late game.

While I agree with the Yi and Shyvana, I disagree with your last statement of all champions that use it falling off. Mine doesn't, it's insanely strong early-mid on the champ I use, yes, and if I get more than 5 or so kills before 20 the enemy team is in so much trouble. I also find that as the game goes on I just become more devastating unless they all just stack pretty much every armor item in the game. If they do this I just grab a couple tanky items and split push like a monster.

However I will say if I saw a Master Yi or Shyvana go warrior now, sure I would probably say WTF too. The champ I use isn't any of these FotM though. I'm not trying to be secretive and it honestly isn't that big of a secret, but my entire solo climb from silver 4 going on Plat 3 has been this same champ using Warrior (It's not this account). I can honestly say 9/10 games I can pretty much wreck anyone on the enemy team and snowball at least 1 lane very easily. Does this always equate to wins? NOPE, but it's got me this far.

Good post though.

TaredomJul 13, 20151 votes

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While I agree with the Yi and Shyvana, I disagree with your last statement of all champions that use it falling off. Mine doesn't, it's insanely strong early-mid on the champ I use, yes, and if I get more than 5 or so kills before 20 the enemy team is in so much trouble. I also find that as the game goes on I just become more devastating unless they all just stack pretty much every armor item in the game. If they do this I just grab a couple tanky items and split push like a monster.

However I will say if I saw a Master Yi or Shyvana go warrior now, sure I would probably say WTF too. The champ I use isn't any of these FotM though. I'm not trying to be secretive and it honestly isn't that big of a secret, but my entire solo climb from silver 4 going on Plat 3 has been this same champ using Warrior (It's not this account). I can honestly say 9/10 games I can pretty much wreck anyone on the enemy team and snowball at least 1 lane very easily. Does this always equate to wins? NOPE, but it's got me this far.

Good post though.

Mind sharing some insight? This was a far better constructed post and I upvoted. I'm curious about the champ that you're referring to.

YumaS2AstralJul 13, 20151 votes

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While I agree with the Yi and Shyvana, I disagree with your last statement of all champions that use it falling off. Mine doesn't, it's insanely strong early-mid on the champ I use, yes, and if I get more than 5 or so kills before 20 the enemy team is in so much trouble. I also find that as the game goes on I just become more devastating unless they all just stack pretty much every armor item in the game. If they do this I just grab a couple tanky items and split push like a monster.

However I will say if I saw a Master Yi or Shyvana go warrior now, sure I would probably say WTF too. The champ I use isn't any of these FotM though. I'm not trying to be secretive and it honestly isn't that big of a secret, but my entire solo climb from silver 4 going on Plat 3 has been this same champ using Warrior (It's not this account). I can honestly say 9/10 games I can pretty much wreck anyone on the enemy team and snowball at least 1 lane very easily. Does this always equate to wins? NOPE, but it's got me this far.

Good post though.

What I am trying to say is that Warrior falls off late game. It is not the champions who use it. Warrior falls off because it only offers flat armor penetration and has nothing that can scale well into late game like Runeglaive, Cinderhulk and Devourer have. However, flat penetration is very good for early game where enemies do not have a lot of armor and magic resistance. Also, most champions who use Warrior are champions who have an extremely good early game, a somewhat decent mid game, and then fall off when late game comes. Examples include Lee Sin, Jarvan IV, and Vi. Before patch 5.13, the reason why Master Yi used Warrior, was not because he had a poor late game, he actually has a very good late game. However, Master Yi was forced into using Warrior because Devourer was too much of a late game item, and didn't actually offered that much. Shyvana used Cinderhulk because she is tanky and had better synergy with Cinderhulk's tanky stats, but she makes better use of Devourer right now due to scaling much better with it than Cinderhulk.

To be honest, Warrior is the only enchantment that actually falls off late game. Every other enchantment scales well into late, except Warrior. I hope that Riot adresses that issue.

CreationFlawJul 13, 20151 votes

Are you really that childish?

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 13, 20151 votes

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Are you really that childish?

Childish because I dislike people talking shit about a build when they are feeding and I'm carrying? Geez, if this is your definition of childish... then I guess so :). 0/10 Troll post lol.

KoldheartedjspJul 13, 20151 votes

you can pick sub optimal items, champions, and position and still manage to win

This is not saying that devour>warrior on the champ you picked it on, but that you can make decisions that aren't the best and still come out on top

Lauricella3Jul 13, 20151 votes

i cringe when i see a Tryndamere get item 3710 , trynd relies almost entirely on crits, and the magic damage from devourer doesn't crit.

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 13, 20151 votes

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i cringe when i see a get , trynd relies almost entirely on crits, and the magic damage from devourer doesn't crit.

Yes it is definitely a sad day to see that Tryn on your team go devourer.

KoldheartedjspJul 13, 20151 votes

TBH i prefer devour on tryn if i ever do decide to jungle with him.

The attack speed imho adds more dps by building his rage bar MUCH faster than warrior could and gives you the crit chance you need to deal the damage. It also adds to his survivability which allows him to farm more. The 10% cdr also feels very out of place on tryn.

Lauricella3Jul 13, 20151 votes

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TBH i prefer devour on tryn if i ever do decide to jungle with him.

The attack speed imho adds more dps by building his rage bar MUCH faster than warrior could and gives you the crit chance you need to deal the damage. It also adds to his survivability which allows him to farm more. The 10% cdr also feels very out of place on tryn.

yeah but warrior provides AD which makes his natural crit very deadly/ along with a bork/static shiv rush after (with attack speed marks) you will have better dps.

the reason why devourer works so well on yi is because of his on-hit true damage.

KoldheartedjspJul 13, 20151 votes

50 ad really isn't that much on tryn when you already 2-3 shot most squishies anyway.

With his passive, botrk, and any other ad item he really doesn't need the extra 50 AD warrior provides, and can melt towers much better with the 50% AS of devourer. 60 magic damage may not help his crits but it's still a decent chunk of damage and adds up when he attacks so fast. With 50 AD you're really only adding 100 dmg to crits (little more with IE).

To each his own i guess

NemeBroJul 13, 20151 votes

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i cringe when i see a get , trynd relies almost entirely on crits, and the magic damage from devourer doesn't crit.

The weird part is that Tryndamere's win rate spiked up significantly with the new devourer, and indeed it is the most common and highest win rate build on him.

I don't really know why.

KãtãrinãJul 13, 20151 votes

Devourer is good on only a select few who can abuse its power spike. One of them is and is another Shyvana . I'm sure there is more but the main reason Shyvana does it for when she Es you it is easy to proc the debuff more due to the double tap hitting it twice. As for her W goes off every 2 hits and the E is also doubled (Not sure about the E though) Regardless the W damage is very high since it shreds so fast. I myself don't care what jungler item my jungle grabs it is there choice not mine unless i myself am the jungler then it is MY choice and if i feel warrior/devourer/Etc is better then i'll grab it.

Lauricella3Jul 13, 20151 votes

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Devourer is good on only a select few who can abuse its power spike. One of them is and is another . I'm sure there is more but the main reason does it for when she Es you it is easy to proc the debuff more due to the double tap hitting it twice. As for her W goes off every 2 hits and the E is also doubled (Not sure about the E though) Regardless the W damage is very high since it shreds so fast. I myself don't care what jungler item my jungle grabs it is there choice not mine unless i myself am the jungler then it is MY choice and if i feel warrior/devourer/Etc is better then i'll grab it.

is going to benefit much better from flat ad than attack speed early game, Consider taking item 3930 on Volibear instead as he benefits much more from the attack speed (his ultimate is an aoe static shiv)

KãtãrinãJul 13, 20151 votes

LOL her W gives her AS. you don't build devourer on Vi for the AS. you build it for your W. and with the AS from devourer+your W then you shred people in seconds. I also haven't done it in ranked yet. but i've played a few normals and my friends played it in ranked and pretty much carried.