Playing for fun VS Playing for rank

SirΤeemο··32 votes·3,254 views

i see a lot of people feeding,trolling,trying new champions etc. in ranked games . when i ask them why , their answer is " i play for fun"

well,why don't you play for fun in normal ? why you have to ruin an important match for others?
there's no logic in league :/

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venomous frost17 votes

because it's easier to say that he's playing for fun, rather than that he got overclassed by his opponents, it's an excuse.

But still, reality is, as long as you aren't a streamer/aspiring pro player, rank is irrelevant and you should be playing for fun. Ofcourse people get fun out of ranking, but yeah...

SirΤeemο5 votes

well,if you try to rank up... and maybe start a channel or what ever... it's almost impossible with those team mates

QuickenedBlade1 votes

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because it's easier to say that he's playing for fun, rather than that he got overclassed by his opponents, it's an excuse.

But still, reality is, as long as you aren't a streamer/aspiring pro player, rank is irrelevant and you should be playing for fun. Ofcourse people get fun out of ranking, but yeah...

I like tilting from d2 to p4 : ^)

rip dreams of challenger streamer

Ariel the Cruel7 votes

Better they troll, test, and feed in ranked where it belongs. We take things seriously in normals!

Unranked master race

Myrmiron6 votes

I play for fun because playing for fun makes me play better than when I play to win. It makes me way more tilt resistant and helps me to keep a positive attitude as well as my head in the game.

Crimzyn3 votes

I agree. I know I have played some ranked games with champs I haven't had much experience with and I totally blew it. Got called a troll and cursed out by a toxic team mate. I get it, I deserved it. No one wants a Panth in top lane 2/11/0 but hey it's a learning experience and I should be playing champs I am experienced in and hopefully roles as well. I totally agree. Autofill adds to this problem also. However I have never used the "Its for fun" excuse for playing ranked. I am totally 100% serious when playing ranked because I am working towards a goal.

I would hope the fun games are done in normal modes.

SirΤeemο2 votes

how did you lose with pantheon? :o Q-W-E-thunderlords-Q-A = kill :o

Crimzyn1 votes

Other then the fact I was tilted and not focused, he would just Q? Alpha strike when I tried to Q him, dodging that, and eat my stun but be able to out DPS me. Eventually he just snowballed and I couldn't stop him. I made many bad plays during that match which didn't help.

Fondling Gems1 votes

The trick in that matchup is to keep qing and make sure your passive is up. Yi will run out of mana and hard push if he keeps trying to dodge with Q and if he does go on you your passive will block one hit then you stun and walk away. That means you only take one Q of damage. Since your Q is on a shorter CD and you don't use as much mana you will win a poke war and force him out.

When he gets forced out hard shove with E then either back or roam and gank mid with your ult. Since his Q hard shoves too and Yi doesn't have any escapes other than his ult unless there are enemies behind him it should make for easy ganks if you call your jungler, especially since you have an easy stun.

Just some advice if you face it again.

Crimzyn1 votes

Thanks! Yeah it was a strange matchup... I know Yi can be played top but it is rare that I see it and I hardly play top myself, it is my 2nd choice but ive gotten away from playing it so much that both my champs and laning phase are not strong any more.. I feel almost autofilled when I get my 2nd choice which is terrible I know... I really need to practice more and get good at that lane again (Or chose a new role) since I play JG mostly I have a Junglers mindset and that doesn't work well in other lanes lol (Except for map awareness - That works very well when transitioning to another lane)

But yes if I do fight a Yi in top vs Panth this is good info thanks!

Titanium703 votes

Anyone who does not play for fun has alot of issues to fix first if you ask me.

And ranked is alot more fun than normals because of a much more balanced matchmaking, serious people and a compeditive enviroment.

I never climbed to climb. I always climbed to get better opponents to beat! Because that's what I consider fun!

Sadly, League turned into a quite messy clownfiesta recently which is why I lost nearly all interest playing compeditive...

SirΤeemο1 votes

bro, we all have fun playing .. but we wanna go a step further of our fun , and climb the ladder and play with better players and get better too..

Dessem1 votes

Ranked Solo also protects you from the clown fiesta that are 4-man premades versus solos. I play Ranked just to avoid those tilting matchups.

Lord Galvatron3 votes

I play normals for practice, I do ranked just to keep up appearances. I also made a bet that I can go until April 4th without going Gordon Ramsay on my teammates so i'd rather not test it by playing ranked.

82839527_DEL2 votes

Anybody who is asking this question is missing the point. League of Legends isn't a job. It's a game. Fun and competitive don't have to be separate.

  1. Since it's a game I'm supposed to have fun, regardless of whether or not I'm playing ranked or norms. Why do people ban "anti-fun" champions in ranked? Cuz those champions don't make the game FUN for them.

  2. I can play vayne support if I want to . If I find that fun, what will prevent me from playing her? I can still try my best to win and still have the competitive nature.

League is a game. Not a job. Pro players have it as a job, but I'm pretty sure they have fun playing the game. Else it's their fault for doing something they find as a chore/bore.

Pr0Meister1 votes

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Anybody who is asking this question is missing the point. League of Legends isn't a job. It's a game. Fun and competitive don't have to be separate.

  1. Since it's a game I'm supposed to have fun, regardless of whether or not I'm playing ranked or norms. Why do people ban "anti-fun" champions in ranked? Cuz those champions don't make the game FUN for them.

  2. I can play vayne support if I want to . If I find that fun, what will prevent me from playing her? I can still try my best to win and still have the competitive nature.

League is a game. Not a job. Pro players have it as a job, but I'm pretty sure they have fun playing the game. Else it's their fault for doing something they find as a chore/bore.

Yes, you will try your hardest but the fact is that adc+supp bot exists for a reason. Eight times out of ten, the adc helped by support will win the game. The other two times when lanes is won is not a traditional pairing bot but just whatever is OP botlane for the current patch (Ziggs comes to mind recently). So, yeah, maybe the patch after the next your Vayne supp will be the optimal choice but if you do this now, chances are, your team will lose.

Hell, you might even be a better player than the other guy by some margin. But given relatively equal skills amongst all players, traditional comp vs fun/quirky comp wins msot days of the weak.

And yes, it is a game, but you play for the Victory screen in the end. You can argue any time playing video games is wasted, but the degree of wastefulness definetly goes up by a metric shitton when one sees that defeat screen.

Dankstin2 votes

Ranked isn't for fun. Ranked is for improvement and climbing. It's the mode that's more likely to warrant more of a competitive mindset in all areas of the game and despite all semantics, does indeed matter the most on a player's profile. Anyone who dismisses this fact as my opinion has no respectable input to add as a ranked player. If you are actively trying to have fun, play a mode meant to have fun. Competitive environments aren't always fun. Pressure is there. Expectations are there. If I see you in a game do terribly and you said "Chill I play for fun" and you are in my next game, that causes a lot of mental duress. 100% of the time, I will tell the team what you did, how you failed us, what you said as an excuse, and warn them of your behavior.

Players who play ranked should have the right to play for fun taken away from them by the ToS. I said it. Ranked is literally the only place we can go to semi-reliably play with people who put their serious face on - people who ward correctly, with good timing, supports who buy upwards of 30+ Control Wards on the low end of the expected numbers, junglers who active strive to secure dragon and enemy buffs, teammates who pick to cater to what the team needs based on subsequent picks, and other "nonsense" that "players who play for fun in ranked" don't truly care for.

Melledoneus2 votes

Normals and ranked don't feel different for me, other than that my ranked games give me really, really clueless, angry, morale-less teammates.

zero3562 votes

I play for fun. But you know what's fun? Winning, climbing, and showing skill at the game. If that's not the type of fun your looking for, don't play ranked. Except for the winning part. I don't give a damn how far off meta you go, so long as try to win in some capacity.

Maximum Morde1 votes
  1. Because it's true. I play for fun.
  2. Ranked is more fun because pissing people off is also amusing. So when I'm getting my shit pushed in, the fact that it super pisses someone off in ranked counterbalances it and let's me still have fun without being negative myself.
SirΤeemο4 votes

you are 27 level.. you can't play ranked. dumb ass lol we can see your level/ranked on your profile on boards by clicking on your name xD

Maximum Morde1 votes

Brah I've been playing since end of season 2. This is my forum posting account cause I've got most of my others forum banned.

SirΤeemο1 votes

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Maximum Morde1 votes

Yes there is.


From: Riot Games Hey Maximum Morde,

It’s not cool posting advice to bait others into something for malicious intent. Due to this violation a 7 day suspension has been issued. Please refrain from posting these or a permanent suspension will follow.

Here is a quote of your post below:

"Delete ur windows folder."


That's the last one I got.

An Undead brat1 votes

FYI, encouraging people not to tryhard in rankeds is baiting others into malicious intent, get me a Rioter to tell me I'm wrong.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Big difference between not giving a shit if someone gets pissed off and encouraging someone to do something which can cause actual harm. There is no malicious intent to tell someone to go play ranked if they want to, while telling someone to go intentional feed in ranked is clearly malicious.

An Undead brat1 votes

But do you realize you are basically saying "Hey, go troll rankeds if you wanna have fun, noone can tell you you can't!"?

SilentBomber1 votes

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Yes there is.


From: Riot Games Hey Maximum Morde,

It’s not cool posting advice to bait others into something for malicious intent. Due to this violation a 7 day suspension has been issued. Please refrain from posting these or a permanent suspension will follow.

Here is a quote of your post below:

"Delete ur windows folder."


That's the last one I got.

WASTED!

The Sword Saint1 votes

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there's not such thing as "forum banned" lul

Yes there is. The privileges to play the game and to forum post are separate. You can get restricted from posting on the forums but still be able to play the game, and you can get banned from the game but still be able to forum post.

The distinction is important because it lets people who have been punished in game have discussions on the forums and try to argue their innocence in a public manner.

SirΤeemο2 votes

if someone was an asshole in forums.. he deserves a ban.. but this guy literally says he got ban in multiple accounts on forum.. and i wonder how he is still not banned in game too if he is so toxic or whatever

The Sword Saint2 votes

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if someone was an asshole in forums.. he deserves a ban.. but this guy literally says he got ban in multiple accounts on forum.. and i wonder how he is still not banned in game too if he is so toxic or whatever

Just means he keeps his mouth shut in game compared to when he's on the forums.

Maximum Morde2 votes

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Just means he keeps his mouth shut in game compared to when he's on the forums.

^

I'm perfectly behaved in game where my account(and the money I spent on skins) is actually at risk. You don't have to be nice in game to not get banned, you just have to not be a dick. Easy enough. Just keep your mouth shut and play the game.

BlueBilberry1 votes

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^

I'm perfectly behaved in game where my account(and the money I spent on skins) is actually at risk. You don't have to be nice in game to not get banned, you just have to not be a dick. Easy enough. Just keep your mouth shut and play the game.

Well, the skins and money are still at risk even if you are silent. But you are less likely to be reported as long as you stay out of chat, make it clear that you are playing muted and you actually contribute to the team somewhat (even when the poorly planned 'bronze war' aram breaks out at mid).

An Undead brat1 votes

Surprised you didn't get your game accounts banned, too, tbh - or did you?

Maximum Morde1 votes

No, I'm very well behaved in game. I got a few chat restrictions on a single account back around season 3 or 4, I can't remember which. Never been punished since cause I limit my naughtyness to the forums.

An Undead brat1 votes

I did not say anything about misbehaving, I'm talking about "having fun" trolling games in rankeds and thus promoting negative behaviour in the League community, there's a special report section for that: assisting enemy team - and it certainly is a bannable offense.

Maximum Morde1 votes

You seem to misunderstand. The League Community is just that toxic that they think playing a game is trolling. You don't actually have to do anything to rage people out except play the game. You will not get banned for playing.

An Undead brat1 votes

Then how are you pissing people off? I'm curious.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Its automatic in ranked if you happen to have a bad game. It's not like you go there intentionally to have a bad game, but everyone does. Maybe one every 10 or 15 matches ya know? And the rage is hilarious.

An Undead brat1 votes

Then I have no idea what you are lobbing for, you seem to disagree with the OP, but you are not even talking about what he's saying... He says you shouldn't troll and justify it by saying: "I'm playing for fun" in ranked, but you are talking about how it's fun when people in rankeds rage... So either you are intentionally trying to piss people off just by your presence somehow (which is reportable as passive-aggressive behaviour), or you are just talking about anything completely different.

Maximum Morde1 votes

I ignored the first part of his post as what constitutes trolling is too hard to judge, and first timing a champion is not a rule break. Intentional feeding is clear though. Instead, I skipped to where he asks why they don't play for fun in normals instead of ranked. The answer is clearly, because it's a game and you are supposed to play for fun no matter where you are playing. Otherwise we wouldn't use the term 'playing'.

Essentially, OP is making a low effort whine thread that can't be taken seriously. Thus it was fair game to give him a bullshit answer that can't be taken seriously either. Put garbage in, get garbage out so to speak.

An Undead brat2 votes

But he's right, tho.

Rankeds are here to express the competitive serious environment for people who want to take it seriously (and you can't say people can't just because you don't, that's plainly selfish). Games might have been meant to be only fun, but things evolve and so do computer games. It's like saying professional football players play "just for fun". If you are playing rankeds only because you like to watch people being pissed off and normals lack that for you (which they really don't), it's your own thing - but don't stick the bullshit "it's ok not to tryhard in raked" under everyone's nose because that's simply not true.

Essentialy, OP is making a thread that dares people not to play rankeds if they don't want to win in the first place, which rankeds are designed for, thus trying to counterargument that is nonsence, which you did.

EDIT: That's why I don't play rankeds, because I value fun over the achievement and I'm not an asshole.

SociopathFriend1 votes

I've actually come across more trolls, hostiles, feeders, and AKF/DC players in ranked compared to normals.

Since I don't care about rank in addition to that, I rarely play ranked, I essentially only do it if my friends badger me enough.

deadlychuck1 votes

Honestly, normals aren't any better for playing for fun.

You are put with or against tons of try hards that think that winning is the most important part of the game. Then you end up with a 30% play rate for lee sin and yasuo.

Project omen1 votes

You know what the funny part is? Apparently, you have to tryhard at normals too, because if you claim that you "just want to have fun in norms" (not including trolling, feeding etc) then that means you don't really want to win and that is reportable.

Maddened King 1 votes

I test champions in Flex and play champions I am good with in Solo Queue.

SirΤeemο1 votes

what? lol , your mmr in flex is the same as in solo queue ... xD

Maddened King 1 votes

no it isn't.

SirΤeemο1 votes

yes it is bro ;p , go to op gg , and u can see there's no different mmr option for flex rank

Maddened King 1 votes

Please read what the MMR is stated under, "Solo MMR". OP.GG doesn't give out Flex MMR because it doesn't track anything from Flex. Also if that was the case, people could pad their ranks in League by losing a ton in Flex, getting horrible opponents and increasing their ranks in solo queue.

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