Playerbase: "Riot this rework is shit. Can we have old Morde back?" Riot: "Eeeeh I guess we cou- wait no one liked the Riven changes? NOPE NOPE NOPE DELETE THEM THEY ARE GONE FOREVER!" Playerbase: "OK can we have old Mordekaiser back please?" Riot: "What's a Mordekaiser?"
#Bring Mordey Back
RyzeRework6 votesDont learn to play against morde just cry untill riot changes it OH WAIT
Retillin10 votesIf that were the issue, why would Morde be so banned at Worlds by the best players? Maybe there is something fundamentally wrong with his kit/power...?
xl Kirito lx1 votesDifferent meta. In soloq, if Mordekaiser gets a dragon, he's going to solo push a tower and take it. In competitive, if Mordekaiser gets a dragon, the entire team is going to form up on him, and push for an inhib with it.
Same logic with Azir. He's horrid in soloq, viable in competitive.
High51 votes[{quoted}](name=xl Kirito lx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AEpRYbAs,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-10-06T16:33:11.821+0000)
Different meta. In soloq, if Mordekaiser gets a dragon, he's going to solo push a tower and take it. In competitive, if Mordekaiser gets a dragon, the entire team is going to form up on him, and push for an inhib with it.
Same logic with Azir. He's horrid in soloq, viable in competitive.
What happens when he doesn't have a dragon?
RyzeRework3 votesIf that were the issue, why would Morde be so banned at Worlds by the best players? Maybe there is something fundamentally wrong with his kit/power...?
In the game of lgd vs tsm he got outscaled and if imp didnt go melee form on kalista they woulda lost
Chespin20131 voteslet's be frank here LGD was on major tilt and if a team like TSM beats the number 1 seed from China than their is something wrong they are hugely under performing that perhaps even some of the teams that didn't make to worlds could beat them.
Budupops5 votesactually havent seen morde since 5.18
Robert Smith6 votesCause of bans?
Chaotic Reks1 votesboth
OxBaker4 votesI do kinda feel bad for Morde players because you know after what we're seeing at worlds that RIOT is gonna be nerfing his current version a fair bit. Doubt we'll ever see him after that. It's gonna be Sion all over again.
Stars Shaper5 votesThe misure of that "fair bit" is what we all fear of.
Raid Boss Morde1 votesI would've never guessed that Morde would be such an important pick/ban at worlds... never. I would've laughed at anyone who would have said that last year!
Retillin4 votesA post by Riot Ghostcrawler on ask.fm
Question: There was a series of interviews where pros were asked what they would like removed from the game (or at the very least changed). The top two answers were TP and Morde. What are your thoughts?http://fragbite.se/fragtv/video/2505/vad-hade-proffsen-andrat-i-lol-om-de-fick-mojligheten (also on reddit)
Answer by GC: I saw that interview, and we discussed the teleport issue a bit. It feels sometimes like half the top-laners like playing top because they like the island aspect, and half the top-laners hate playing top because they hate the island aspect (which teleport tends to mitigate). In terms of esports, I feel like viewers prefer a teleport top lane to an island top lane, but that's just a hunch and not validated by data.
Morde is a bigger topic.
Ghostcrawlers profile with question on ask.fm http://ask.fm/RiotGhostcrawler
Decrit4 voteswell, because it is. the dude answers when he can and is always avaiable to reply, can' t we cut him some slack?
even tought, honestly, the more time passes the more i think Morde is the way it is for PR reasons. I am not the kind of dude that makes out complottism, but the more time passes and the more i compare out stuff looks like Morde' s W was kept this way to make this world different from any other and increase the attenction: the W was probably the single biggest problem of his whole kit, and got mechanically changed without getting numerically changed in passive ( the % increase on exp) which was the thing that bought most of the problems AND what made him articifially viable in duo lanes.
the rework itself is fine, is a breakthrought and i hope there will be more like this and a future where there are less tightened team compos, but this W grinds my gears.
Ginny2 votesWhat do you mean, bring him back? He's stronger than ever!
Squidsmastah2 votesHow? He now has an extreme lack of AoE, his shield on his W was removed, he has to mostly rely on his E to keep him alive, he has to build mostly around tankyness so he can't get blown the fuck up by everyone, and you can't really build full AP or anything else otherwise he can't take a punch for shit. No, he is not stronger.
Unlimited Chill1 votesWith just 
Mord is so strong. He deals plenty of damage with the amount of tank he builds. Plus if you add 
you will be dishing out even more. He doesn't need the shield on his W because of the heal that keeps him alive.
Xx420n0sc0p3sxX1 votesStatistics argue with that. With 3 q's+e+ult he can 100-0 someone with rylais and a triforce then tank. Old morde could do this but required a damage build to do it, and got kited just as hard. Only thing he truly lost was his waveclear, which honestly is alright.
Maximum Morde1 votesHow? He now has an extreme lack of AoE, his shield on his W was removed, he has to mostly rely on his E to keep him alive, he has to build mostly around tankyness so he can't get blown the fuck up by everyone, and you can't really build full AP or anything else otherwise he can't take a punch for shit. No, he is not stronger.
Yes his Aoe was cut down. No he doesnt have to rely on his E to keep him alive. His E in concert with his W and R keep him alive. Even his Q helps by making anything near him dead. There are plenty of tanky damage items he can build. Abyssal, Zhonyas, Rylais, Liandries, Triforce, Steraks, Deadman Plate, the two MR swords that I can't remember the name of but one builds from QSS the other from hexdrinker. I probably missed a few but the point is, by choosing your items intelligently you can have a large health pool with decent Mr and armor, good ap, reasonable ad, and you will hit like a truck while doing it. His combo does more damage now than it ever did after the DFG removal while build tanky.
He is straight up more powerful than before, just more team reliant. And his design is really unhealthy. Hit third Q? Win. Dont? Lose. Just too damn binary to be good for game play. That is why he is banned and I had to move on to a new main. Can't get him anymore ever since the changes.
Raid Boss Morde1 votesActually, old Morde was way better. Higher base stats, more overrall damage, more rage (small, but still true), to and tankier.
His current damage is all put into his Q, making the rest of his skills weak. Pre-rework Morde had crazy high damage on his Q, and E, and was still able to retain decent damage on his W, all while being able to use these skills solo.
Old Morde had higher base health, health regen, armor, attack speed, and much higher movement speed.
Old Morde had higher range on his Q (~600 range from the AoE), slightly higher range on his E, and much more range on his R. Also, all of his damage is focused on his Q now, an auto attack. Before, his main damage was from his E, so he could at least poke at range.
Statistics may say he's "stronger", but that's just banrate, which is about 50% right now. His win rate is actually lower than pre-rework Morde!
Old Morde had about a 51% winrate, new Morde has a 49% winrate.
HayRoss2 votesI made this joke and it got downvoted. What is this?
Meep Man2 votesThe Riven changes arent gone forever. They just arent coming out this patch.
Robert Smith1 votesThey didn't delete them. They are saving them again for next one cycle
Big Lincoln1 votesat this rate I would rather them just pin Mordekaiser up for the next big mega-rework. Riot didn't think his previous self was "healthy" and nobody likes the abomination that is this rework. We're never gonna get a revert of it; it's way too much negative publicity.
I'd say do him after Yorick but that's never going to happen.
CryingChicken1 votesI also want prework Skarner back, he was permabanned for a while got nerfed and I haven't seen him since... I miss my kind
Mordepool1 votesWuba luba dubdub
High51 votesEkko was perma banned for a month until people started really learning to play him and around him.
Morde, when not banned at worlds, seemed highly susceptible to a duo ranged bot lane. Seems that people don't want to update their strats vs the champion being broken or OP.