FYI nunu has a higher win rate than lee sin in NA+EU LCS

AnOstrichWithPMS·Feb 9, 2015·2 votes·999 views

though its a little unfair because nunu has only been played twice and won 1(and banned once) so he is at 50% win rate and lee has been picked 19 games (banned 12) and won 8 games giving him 42%

other interesting facts Jarvan has a 93.33% pick and ban rate ...39 picks...17 bans, 20 wins kassidin is in 2nd at 91.67% pick and ban rate 17 picks , 38 bans,12 wins

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MT7DoVUpRTAMiw0GbDXxIOLzshGM3wnADgU_wqgZ9V8/htmlview?sle=true# and if u look at here u can see the next ones are reksai gnar and liss and if you go specifically to NA listings lissandra has a 100% win rate in NA LCS right now (feb 9)

zed has a 75% win rate in lcs atm

6 Comments

TerffFeb 9, 20151 votes

Nunu witness my superior play style and see it. My master tactics will win. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

SmokingPuffinFeb 9, 20151 votes

Competitive win rates for junglers aren't all that useful as an analytical tool right now. Lee Sin currently has a low win rate because he has a bad Jarvan matchup. That's really the whole story here. He gets picked because the alternatives are worse.

No word on why Riot is being so slow to address the least diverse jungle meta in history. They're being really quiet about it and there aren't many changes of interest on PBE, either.

Celeste BenalFeb 9, 20151 votes

This would require Riot admitting publicly they they screwed up badly.

SmokingPuffinFeb 9, 20151 votes

Admission that they have a problem isn't the problem. If you watch the last patch preview show, they talked about how jungle diversity isn't up to par and half the new jungle items are seeing zero use.

I suspect the problem is that they don't know how good they want junglers to be. Are Lee Sin and Jarvan currently balanced, and we need to buff 20 other junglers? Or do we need to nerf the top tier and then rebalance the jungle monsters to compensate?

Drunk RummateFeb 9, 20151 votes

i mean, sivir had like a 40% winrate and 55% pickrate last time i checked in LCS, but they're still picking her like crazy because she's really strong and useful

you also have to consider that sometimes these really strong champions are picked at the expense of other choices. maybe gravity gets lee sin, but they lose kassadin and gnar because of it. etc.

winrates are useful and interesting, but with such a small pool of games right now they aren't all that reliable.

AnOstrichWithPMSFeb 9, 20151 votes

sivir is on the list in the link lol you could have just checked....its 48% win rate for sivir and 65% pick and ban

25 picks , 14 ban , 12 wins

also i know win rates arent reliable, thats pretty much what this post was about xD