I'll not judge Ornn....

FixHealsRemoveGW·1/9/2019, 9:40:53 AM·8 votes·6,340 views

But with the increase to his max health damage from brittle (7-12% to 12-20%) I expect a major wave of "too much damage while building full tank" complaints incoming. On top of that he can give 1k free gold to himself or team mates each level, starting at level 13 for a maximum of 6k gold advantage in items. Some might say this lacks skill expression and you increase your winrate by simply picking Ornn and not being afk.

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Jerry SeinfeId1/9/2019, 2:27:38 PM2 votes

i won't judge ornn.... but anyone who plays that atrocity tho. i'll judge them.

JeaneGreene1/9/2019, 11:03:31 PM2 votes

Ornn feels really weak rn. He can’t trade with a lot of people and now needs to farm a lot to scale up

Juice1/9/2019, 9:43:29 AM2 votes

What? Tanks are an amazing design...

What's wrong with picking tank and going afk and then hoping your ADC daddy will carry you while you protect him with your cc

Janna Me Fiddle1/9/2019, 8:27:52 PM1 votes

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But with the increase to his max health damage from brittle (7-12% to 12-20%) I expect a major wave of "too much damage while building full tank" complaints incoming. On top of that he can give 1k free gold to himself or team mates each level, starting at level 13 for a maximum of 6k gold advantage in items. Some might say this lacks skill expression and you increase your winrate by simply picking Ornn and not being afk.

He will actually die when people jump on him now and he's got to hold his W for trades instead of randomly using it to wave clear like he did before, I think of him more like old Olaf Do NOT let the game get beyond 30 minutes if Ornn is around because he's going to have both his upgraded items and have his team upgraded as well.

RecessHero1/10/2019, 3:22:33 AM1 votes

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But with the increase to his max health damage from brittle (7-12% to 12-20%) I expect a major wave of "too much damage while building full tank" complaints incoming. On top of that he can give 1k free gold to himself or team mates each level, starting at level 13 for a maximum of 6k gold advantage in items. Some might say this lacks skill expression and you increase your winrate by simply picking Ornn and not being afk.

LOL go play him top lane and let me know how well you CS and survive without his shield. These changes are going to be a massive nerf to top lane Ornn players. There is literally no way to properly trade or CS against ranged champs and divers anymore besides standing under turret and hoping the game goes long enough for your passive to truly come online....good luck with that in this meta.

VelvetCrotch1/10/2019, 4:14:47 AM1 votes

But Q is weaker now, Ul t too and E was already not very reliable. Please, if you complain about his strengths dont forget to mention his weak points, which are not a few.

Illabethe1/10/2019, 4:56:10 AM1 votes

Actually:

You're going to see a lot of complaints that Ornn is unplayable. Without his shield, Top lane (Or anywhere) is now Merciless to him. Literally every top laner right now can level 1 him. He needs to pretty much play passive the entire lane phase and hope the opponent screws up, while he has ult up.

I've tried it a couple times, and the results are pretty much this: As the game goes on, Ornn's impact increases. But.... Early game he's completely a loser. If your team can't get you to late game, you're going to lose.

In a community where "junglers don't gank losing lanes" his win rate is going to be dismal, and he probably is going to get shelved by some religious users because he's not worth the risk of that early bad game.

Jaspers1/9/2019, 10:18:15 AM1 votes

The changes I would have done is move his shield to his E but only when he makes contact with a wall/pillar and put his unstoppable back on his W. That's it. See how that goes first then test the rest of the stuff after.

He just got a lot of changes, benefits for the entire team and loads of more damage while removing survivability, so I'm not sure if it'll help the 45% winrate or not, or just leave him in another pick/ban in pro and still useless everywhere else.

Nyarlathοtep1/9/2019, 12:44:01 PM1 votes

Yep you are right.

Fun fact! He cant build offensive items. Both his ad and ap ratios are garbage. Yet he is still going to hit like a truck despite being an AHEM tank.