@Herald Evangele be consequent at enforcing your rules or reconsider them

Yes, I understand that, but she has eclipsed the concept of a statistical anomaly. Her time spent moderating pales at her removal rate.

I have maybe 10 smurf accounts and a main account. Herald Evangele is the only moderator to EVER remove content on ANY of the TEN smurf accounts. Then the main account is 85% Herald Evangele removals. This is compounded by the fact, I do not sleep in cycles, and have literally posted at every hour of the day, and be it 10 minutes or 3 hours, it's still Herald Evangele to remove the content. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me she was one of two moderators at this point.

But I know this isn't even remotely true, and you have a huge team, so whats the deal? I already know- Personal Bias. When I say this, I do not even explicitly mean a bias she has towards my account, but her OWN bias. She enforced the rules more on her OWN than to the LETTER. This is what I mean by she is being bias. She will relate things that are questionably not offensive to being offensive, and remove it with a jump in logic, rather than being reactive, she proactively removes content. It has nothing to do with the fact she has -only- punished me and continues to do so. I've changed my ACC ID 4 times between her removals, I'm fairly confident she is not personally targeting me, as much as her own opinions of what rules SHOULD be.

Since this conversation started I have, based on your feedback and her request, gone through the last 40 actions that she performed. I have not found any that I consider improperly done. I will continue to look as I have time, but to me it looks like her removals, while indeed more numerous than some of the team, have a high accuracy rate upon review.

My question is rate of content removed. What time period are the 40 posts removed over, and is there a single moderator that compares to that length of time?

"while indeed more numerous than some of the team, have a high accuracy rate upon review." As I expected. But by HOW MUCH? I can understand a situation where I am able to cross her lines of removal while not crossing other peoples due to perspective, but the frequency is insane.

If you could even tell me there is a single person removing more content, I would feel (much)better about it, because that person has never removed my posts. Most moderators have never removed my posts. Pretty much always/only Herald Evangele.

[{quoted}](name=THUNDERKATS HOOO,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=LmsEE6aZ,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2018-09-06T19:42:37.942+0000)As I expected. But by HOW MUCH? I can understand a situation where I am able to cross her lines of removal while not crossing other peoples due to perspective, but the frequency is insane.

I am, frankly, not interested in discussing numbers or comparing frequency of action across moderators here, especially as it's a volunteer position where people moderate what they can when they can. Accuracy of removals matters more than number of removals -- I'd frankly love to have more mods more active, as it means things get dealt with quicker. My concern is with how moderation actions stand up to review, not how frequently one individual moderates. This particular individual's actions have indeed stood up to review, and I've now dived pretty deep on removals as a result of this thread.

I understand you may be concerned about frequency, but I do not see it as an issue I feel needs to be addressed. As far as moderation goes, a higher number of accurate actions that are supported upon review is a GOOD thing.

So not only is mass banning and removal not an issue to you, but you also don't track it.

I didn't personally come here to bash Herald Evangele, I wouldn't have said anything if OP didn't post. I literally know I am not alone in these thoughts as the OP echoed to me as I read it. I am mostly concerned by frequency of a single moderator debasing any type of standards of the system. If you are concerned it's harder to implement a standard, I could suggest to you that heavy frequency of a single moderator might be a contributing factor to what is routine and what is not. Whatever the disconnect is, I can tell you catering the entire system to the person who bans the most people isn't a good idea either.

I'm sure you view me as some kind of 'trouble maker' or 'enemy' now that I have sufficiently expressed my opinion, I can hear it in your tone that you aren't trying to level with me as a person, and want to remain the authority, even though I'm perfectly chill myself. I'm sure giving this real level headed criticism will only ironically backfire and I'll be scrutinized more personally than before. It shouldn't feel that, way but it does pepe.jpg

[{quoted}](name=THUNDERKATS HOOO,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=LmsEE6aZ,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004,timestamp=2018-09-06T20:10:38.444+0000)So not only is mass banning and removal not an issue to you...

It's enough of an issue that I went and looked through a bunch of her recent actions. If I see accurate actions, I'm not concerned at the rate, no, because that's more stuff correctly removed, which is the goal.

I am mostly concerned by frequency of a single moderator debasing any type of standards of the system.

And this is why I went ahead and reviewed them. I don't see a debasement of any standards -- I see a pattern of reliably accurate removals.

I'm sure you view me as some kind of 'trouble maker' or 'enemy' now that I have sufficiently expressed my opinion...

Nah, we're cool. It's just something that I legitimately see as a strength of Eva's rather than a concern, as I haven't seen a single action I don't agree with in her last 80ish (at this point -- I've kept looking) actions. To me there aren't any signs of problems, and we just don't agree that frequency of action IS a problem.

I can understand as a 'head moderator'(or w/e) why you would appreciate high results;

if it could just feel any less like a police quota, that would be great. I want to feel redirected when I get a moderation message to change my behavior, not be able to assume it's the same fleeting type of removal from the same person. When a post is removed by Herald Evangele, I just assume it breaks her standards alone, and not boards. This is the only way I can process my posts only being removed by only her for so long. The few events I've had with other moderators felt more typical, and what it should be like. I agree SOME of my posts removed by her are justified, looking at them a second time after they are removed always adds perspective, but those actions and feeling of usefulness is watered down pretty heavily by the less justified ones.

An example I definitely do not want to go into(This is my last post) is how my content discussing the female league pannel gets removed, when there are entire threads that should just be burned, and somehow, I'm still getting singled out in specific posts to 'don't be a jerk', while there are triads of threads with hate, racism and sexism going on. Herald Evangele's more minor removals and the lesser crimes being so adamantly processed while all the bigger stuff is going on is particularly annoying, whereas less annoying otherwise in quieter times.

When a post is removed by Herald Evangele, I just assume it breaks her standards alone, and not boards.

Given how thoroughly I just went through her recent removals, I can assure you that it is because it breaks board standards. Something to keep in mind for the future.

This is the only way I can process my posts only being removed by only her for so long.

This is, frankly, mostly coincidence.

We are not singling anyone out either -- we're simply looking at what gets reported to the best of our ability, and we acknowledge that we won't get everything, and won't be perfect. :(

We are not singling anyone out either -- we're simply looking at what gets reported to the best of our ability,

Well that sounds familiar again... another issue that you also didn't want to discuss in detail.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/d1ZpVMQ8-is-moderation-affected-by-the-popularity-of-an-opinion

You are making all these exceptions, you leave territory that is covered by the clarity of the board rules and then you allow false reports to turn you into tools of users who simple disagree with something or want to shut others up.

I have no doubt that whoever reported me here and back then simply didn't like my opinion but also didn't want to discuss. So you are controlled by the reports/popularity of an opinion and you are just becoming a proxy for users who do reports with insidious intentions.

So by proxy you are restricting free speech.

This is why I ask you to refine the rules or don't make so many exceptions. It opens too many possibilities for unfair actions if you also don't go around to take action without being notified by reports.

Coincidence seems like a crummy answer, but I'll buy it, I guess that's possible. The reassurance about the review process makes me feel better. I know it's not an easy job, from my perspective she's doing it all herself.