[Clarity] - Morgana's Spell Vamp

Centerpoint360·Jun 7, 2015·72 votes·4,752 views

When a new player, or just someone somewhat unfamiliar with , sees her passive, "Morgana has a natural 10/15/20% spell vamp", it looks like all her abilities heal her for that 10/15/20% of the damage dealt.

Unfortunately for people not familiar with how spell vamp actually works, her W and R only heal for 1/3 of that. Now this information is clearly stated on the spell vamp items, and its on the wiki, sure. But why isn't this info on Morg's passive?

So with that in mind... Dear Rito, please add this to Morgana's passive for clarity.

Spell Vamp: Abilities heal for a percentage of the damage they deal. Area of Effect spells only grant one-third of the healing from Spell Vamp.

Thank you - Us basic players

39 Comments

TimTheEnchanter7Jun 8, 201515 votes

Well jeez I play Morgana quite a bit, and I didn't even know that.

I didn't even know spell vamp on was 1/3 as a effective on aoe spells.

I ain't even new to the game.

xXMorshuXxJun 8, 20151 votes

Her ult isnt reall AOE, just her W

ElJanitorFrankJun 8, 201516 votes

Yes, it is. Any ability that can hit multiple targets is AOE.

Vel'Koz's Q, which only his 3 targets max, is considered AOE.

ChaoticPineconeJun 9, 20151 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_vamp

"Area of effect (AoE) spells only apply 33% of the listed spell vamp.

Fox-Fire's projectiles are classified as single-target, and will apply 100% of your spell vamp.

Abilities with both single-target and multi-target effects, such as Mace of Spades and Lay Waste, will apply spell vamp depending on which effect occurs. In that, full spell vamp against a single target; or 33% against multiple targets.

Single target abilities that apply splash damage will apply full spell vamp to the original target, and 33% to the splash damage. For example Conflagration with Blaze and Desperate Power."

5000000000000000Jun 8, 20151 votes

1/3 spell vamp is on multi-target and AoE spells.

All Day Tay TayJun 8, 20154 votes

and dot

ImHerVoiceJun 8, 20151 votes

no actually single target dots aren't aoe. Swain gets full usage of spellvamp on his E just fine same with his Q. the problem is since its small increments iover and over its not as noticable as a large damage dump like a morgana/vlad Q.

All Day Tay TayJun 8, 20151 votes

huh. ive been playing for 3 years. still learning i guess. thanks

ImHerVoiceJun 8, 20151 votes

well in season 1/season 2 rioters actually played the game actively and you could see them a lot in beta/season 1 in games. Now that theres a million casuals with a million smurfs thats far less likely. The fact I still have 5-7 rioters added on each of my EU/KR/NA accounts is amazing in itself because they hardly play anymore. Other than people like phreak who actively play their own game most of them are just low elos which is funny, they balance their own game but they're low elo... Ok maybe thats not funny, thats a bad sign idk. lol

I used to play a lot of swain in s1 as a top laner. I didnt mid lane him. roa first item is still a thing on him though some people would rather go tear for some reason, not that its bad due to upgrade now its just wierd.

But spellvamp swain wasn't really a thing spiritvisage was + spell vamp runes was but actual spellvamp items no. Was a waste of gold Roa- znohyas- Deathcap/randuims - spiritvisage was better or BV but BV back then wasn't as good as it is now in terms of build path so I'd personally just buy a abysall scepter.

AFK PushJun 8, 20151 votes

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Well jeez I play quite a bit, and I didn't even know that.

I didn't even know spell vamp on was 1/3 as a effective on aoe spells.

I ain't even new to the game.

This is why some ppl will call you a "scrub" for buying item 3146 on Katarina , because she is pretty much nothing but aoe.

AkesgerothJun 8, 20151 votes

Actually, despite being AoE, Kat scales fairly well with Spell Vamp. Furthermore, gunblade gives her a nice boost to both AP and AD, both of which she scales with. Finally, popping it on your target before ulting means a nice 300 damage combined with a slow so they can't run out too fast.

AFK PushJun 8, 20151 votes

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Actually, despite being AoE, Kat scales fairly well with Spell Vamp. Furthermore, gunblade gives her a nice boost to both AP and AD, both of which she scales with. Finally, popping it on your target before ulting means a nice 300 damage combined with a slow so they can't run out too fast.

Yeah, it just isn't as cost efficient considering other options, but is still a decent item overall.

AkesgerothJun 8, 20151 votes

Spell vamp would be absurd if it wasn't this way. Imagine how Morde would scale with it otherwise.

Of note is that Spell Vamp also works off the damage from active items and Smite.

Celeste BenalJun 8, 20151 votes

It also works fully on Ekko's E and W passive. And throwing that Q out on a minion wave still gets him a nice chunk of HP back. item 3145 is actually a nice sustain item for him if you need it.

Juggernaut628Jun 7, 201512 votes

I know they say the don't want tooltips being too long, but this would barely do anything to an already short tooltip and is probably very important to new players so I'm all for it.

Zone of EndlessJun 8, 20155 votes

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I know they say the don't want tooltips being too long, but this would barely do anything to an already short tooltip and is probably very important to new players so I'm all for it.

Don't want tool tips to be too long?

Tell that to new champions that has 4 skills in one ability

DirkTarTarJun 8, 20154 votes

honestly, spell vamp just needs an overhaul.

SpiritGearJun 8, 20152 votes

which means Vladimir needs an overhaul considering hes the main offender for spellvamp

ProfDrDeathJun 8, 20152 votes

Funny enough, Vlad is only the biggest offender because all current Spellvamp because SV is set-up only for AP.

Only Play DariusJun 8, 20152 votes

Mordekaiser Katarina Akali

Hatless CasualJun 8, 20151 votes

You forgot Yorick

Silents429Jun 8, 20152 votes

Well apart from spellvamp Vlad DOES need a rework.

NorthernDruidJun 8, 20151 votes

Truth.

TotalJerkJun 8, 20151 votes

Meddler said they are thinking about looking at it being pre mitigation or something.

DirkTarTarJun 9, 20151 votes

theres a few champions that use spellvamp - the listed ones are - Akali Katarina Mordekaiser Vladimir but spell vamp in general is not that great and could be much more useful

DecrousJun 8, 20151 votes

Considering she's played mainly as a support now, i wouldn't mind if they just changed her passive entirely. 20% spell vamp on a support isn't really effective.

The SoulforgedJun 8, 20151 votes

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Considering she's played mainly as a support now, i wouldn't mind if they just changed her passive entirely. 20% spell vamp on a support isn't really effective.

Her passive was always terrible imo.

Shroom JunkieJun 8, 20152 votes

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Considering she's played mainly as a support now, i wouldn't mind if they just changed her passive entirely. 20% spell vamp on a support isn't really effective.

I actually see her mid laning as much, if not more, than supporting. I don't know if that's just me but just that should show its an even amount.

DecrousJun 8, 20151 votes

The last time I saw her mid was early season 4 =/

SnugglePuggle94Jun 8, 20152 votes

I love Morgana mid, in fact I wrecked a Yasuo mid today with her. I have 5% spell vamp in runes/masteries, along with rushing Will of the Ancients, when she gets her 20% passive late game, I'm finishing around 45% spell vamp usually unless I go for spirit visage to counter someone. She's just fine. If they buffed her passive I would love that.

BiffoloJun 8, 20151 votes

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I actually see her mid laning as much, if not more, than supporting. I don't know if that's just me but just that should show its an even amount.

If you look at statistics here: http://champion.gg/champion/Morgana/Support and http://champion.gg/champion/Morgana/Middle You will see that it is not even CLOSE to being an even amount.

NorthernDruidJun 8, 20158 votes

So Morgana mid should lose her sustain because it's not as good on her as a support?

DecrousJun 8, 20153 votes

Yeah pretty much.