Is Ivern bad in low elos?

røckstãr·Jun 13, 2017·2 votes·600 views

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MartensiticJun 13, 20171 votes

Everything is bad on low ELOs.

Because its played by low ELO players :-)

Shifue DravenJun 13, 20171 votes

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Everything is bad on low ELOs.

Because its played by low ELO players :-)

^This i am truly in elo hell it did not matter one bit how i played when everyone else around is running around like a chicken with their head cut off doing stupid things it's all bad. After all i got stuck with an ashe support cause why in his words"it worked in worlds" and this guy was messing up my cs by taking it and shooting them messing up my rotations on mf for love tap and on top of it did nothing to support and kept going ham. same with my karma support but the time i played cho for my last game.

I gave up when the team was arguing (like all of my last games ) in the base in the first 3 mins and the lee would not gank the low riven as i was oom she had 50hp and he was not even 20 teemos away.

KraythaxJun 13, 20172 votes

Part of that problem might be that support are generally pissed on by the community in general. Unappreciated and blamed for every game that goes south. As a frequent support player I know this for a fact.

Shifue DravenJun 13, 20171 votes

I understand supports get pissed on. i do my best to make sure mine is not i ward a lot on my own and i take charge of my cs and play.But just to give you an ideal on that match out side of the messing up of my cs cause it was throwing off my love taps cause then the minions was taking cs to because of her. she chased the adc non stop instead of harrassing the soraka. Said i am going tank ashe.... and then was no help what so ever and then started taking kills from me and actually she was who buried me in lane i could not get ahead and when late game came i was useless. cause she robbed me of everything she could being selfish.

The next adc game i had had a karma in it that kept chasing the enemy and going ham out of the gate and fed i begged her nicely to stop saying please play safe i can out play twitch and she said ok and dived him inside of his minion wave again. she did not build support and went damage and we lost nost just cause of her but cause my team would not focus on top of her feeding. i am honestly considering just playing support to get out of bronze cause being in top i never get a gank.

Being in jungle people expect ganks when i am across the map and they have them pushed under the tower lol. as a adc i get crazy supports like the ones above and as mid well it's 50/50

hi ìm grootJun 13, 20171 votes

You make it out to sound like you're a victim of your elo, but your match history has a very high number of ranked games that look like int.

Shifue DravenJun 13, 20171 votes

Sorry maybe it's to late for me to be reading but whats int? But that aside i can't make up these scenarios above they happened in my games this is what i constantly deal with when i try to play ranked. i mean for the adc games i had yesterday it lines up there is the "support" ashe and her crap. As well as there is the karma that built damage and fed.

My game as panth top was going fine until my jungle(0/14) kept diving and fed everyone and then having a ad mid in ren(really?...3/10) i was beating kayle down early game then team fights came they started them without everyone there 3 of my death where trying to keep them out of the base and it shows.

My 2/7 trynd game the support fed jinx nothing i could do to stop this everytime i tried to split to get pressure off them it failed maybe i should have not tried to but what else was there to do at that point.

My xin game at 0/6 i'll admit yes part of it was my fault i did not ward as much as i could have i am sure but considering the non stop invading and ryze feeding kat and pushing her to farm under her own tower safely and expecting me to dive her at full health lol. People like him are why i am trying to quit playing jungle.But on the over all that was a horrible game for all but it spawned off of ryze feeding kat more then anything hence the pre 20 quit.

My game on swain went horrible jungler never gave any help her jungler was better i tried staying under the tower just to get dived on by zac and her combo none of my team was in the positive yet again.

This is not a blaming i'll admit again i am not perfect but if a team is not pulling their weight as well i can't pull all of it either this is the problem in low elo. If one person like jinx in that trynd game gets a head and her being a hyper carry it's done unless you make a full team effort to stop her and this low good luck with that.I tried to rally them to one spot and that did not work eveyone went their own way. I every game try to just focus on my own game and i like to think i keep improving but or at least to.

However it's hard to do better when everyone else falls on their face (not saying that i don't) but when you're an adc and your support leroys the lane you'r doing good to stay in the lane to cs 2v1. Again not trying to play the victim or anything or say i don't mess up i know i do but seriously how can you not with the thing i have stated above?

One more edit i am not meaning to sound rude please don't think that but seriously the next ranked game i play with something like this happening i'll save it and post it lol it's like a circus. infact is their not a site that has the games saved?

WráthfulJun 13, 20171 votes

Yes because:

Recent nerfs hitted him hard not rly recomended for any elo for a few patches.
he is team dependant if your team sucks ivern cant do much except keeping the adc alive he is not a damage - carry jungle like the jg meta now. u just cant hard carry whit him in lower elos.

MartensiticJun 13, 20171 votes

u just cant hard carry whit him in lower elos.

No one "hard carries" in lower ELOs.

People just stumble around and get lucky sometimes. Its like a bunch of people with blindfolds trashing around wildly in a lightless room, declaring themselves Kung-Fu Masters when they accidentially hit someone.

Leaf on BushJun 13, 20171 votes

The answer to how good or bad a champion performs is always:

It mostly depends on your skill if you pick him.

Statistically he might be slightly worse or slightly better, however these are good and bad iverns thrown together for a flat result. This kind of statistic doesn't tell you how good or how bad individual Ivern players can perform and whether or not they are doing it consistently.

So again, important is only how good you are in relation to your rank. The "powerlevel" of champions has an extremely minor influence especially in lower ranks. The flaws that players have are more than enough to nullify any influence.